Charlie Van Kirk

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1,326 appearances 5 recordings 2 series first heard May 2026 last heard 12 Aug

Charlie Van Kirk’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast · 1164: Pete Dye Deep Dive Part 1 · 27 May 2026 podcast

Can you fill out some of that for me?

What was that like?

How do you decide who to reply to first if they're both talking to you at the same time?

What's an example of something that Alice wrote in Sharpie on a page and sent back to you?

Yeah, Neil, he got home when he was 30, 1955, after about five years on the job and said, that's it.

Let's get out of insurance.

Start building golf courses.

Pete's boss at the time apparently wasn't too happy about this.

Sent him a note suggesting that he seeks psychiatric help.

I think a lot of it comes back to his early days turning sprinklers on and off when he was eight or nine years old at Urbana.

There was something planted in there in those formative years.

In the early 50s, he was on the country club of Indianapolis football.

Green's committee.

The course had been through some rough times, apparently, and he asked to be on the committee.

And so they allowed him on and they may have come to regret that decision later.

They didn't know how much, he says, the quote is, it took a while for them to realize how much of a disaster it would be that they...

Let him into the boys club.

Uh, so the, the club at the time had what he calls some of the finest players of the day as part of their, their membership who quote, remember me as the man who single-handedly annihilated their golf course.

Pete had studied, we know that he didn't graduate from any university, but he studied turf management, took some classes with a few professors and academic doctors at Purdue, went to superintendents meetings in the area to learn some techniques, got a little dangerous, emboldened with- I like Cody.

He's a turf head.

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