Charlie Van Kirk
speaker
1,326 appearances
5 recordings
2 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 12 Aug
Charlie Van Kirk’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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When Pete had to step down from the board later on or the membership board of directors or whatever it was, they wrote this whole missive that was tongue in cheek and funny thanking him.
And they did reference him paying no more than twice what the land was worth to build the chorus after getting drunk under the table by our cagey lady.
Well...
According to Chris Worthwine, a historian on this excellent fried egg video about Crooked Stick, he said that somebody made a drawing for the course plans, but Pete claimed that he hadn't actually drawn it and neither had Alice.
So it's unclear to me who made this drawing, but there was a drawing made by someone that was used to raise money.
packet right to get you got to have a visual for the bank for the loan thesis yeah for the loan yeah that was was it dean beeman that that had that same story i think about same story i've heard this like you know command c command v story uh on almost all of these 10 courses like yeah we you had to go to the bank with something so somebody made something it wasn't i don't think it was pete and then you know we got the money and he just threw away the plans and built the course
You will be seeing more of that, Neil, in the ensuing nine courses.
And as a result of this harvest time gap between the two nines, they ended up with some different design influences.
You know, Pete was looking at, before building the back, he was spending time on some McKenzie and Perry Maxwell courses.
Big McKenzie guy, by the way, had his architecture book and scribbled in the front of Pete's copy of McKenzie's book, $500 reward if found.
Like he had all kinds of notes in the margins there.
So green on 14 at Crooked Stick, for example, is an inverse version of the number 13 green at Crystal Downs, Perry Maxwell course with a frontier falling away at the back.
But then before building the front, he had been spending time with...
Ross and Tillinghast.
So you see a lot more of their influences in the greens on the front nine, according to Tom Doak.
He goes through some of this in detail on that Friday video, which is interesting.
So you end up with a little bit of a smorgasbord of different ideas, which is not the first time that's going to happen on a PTI course either.
He was a big Redan fan.
And so he has a few instances of Redans.
I don't know...
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