Charlie Van Kirk

How much that was publicized in the moment kind of depends on the outlet, but she's a super interesting character.

How much that was publicized in the moment kind of depends on the outlet, but she's a super interesting character.

We're going to dive into her as well.

We're going to dive into her as well.

I talked to one of his shapers who started working with Pete when Pete was in his 70s, and Abe Wilson, the shaper, was in his 20s, and he said that Pete ran him ragged.

I talked to one of his shapers who started working with Pete when Pete was in his 70s, and Abe Wilson, the shaper, was in his 20s, and he said that Pete ran him ragged.

So, yeah, just boundless.

So, yeah, just boundless.

Yeah, the more people that I talk to about him and the more that I even read his book that Barry Mina Potbunker, as you mentioned, that was written with Mark Shaw, the more he contained multitudes in the sense that he had this self-deprecation, was not afraid to admit when he got something wrong, which is a very endearing quality, but he was confident as fuck about the stuff that he made.

Yeah, the more people that I talk to about him and the more that I even read his book that Barry Mina Potbunker, as you mentioned, that was written with Mark Shaw, the more he contained multitudes in the sense that he had this self-deprecation, was not afraid to admit when he got something wrong, which is a very endearing quality, but he was confident as fuck about the stuff that he made.

There were some there are some news clippings that like this is this might be this not only might be this is probably certainly the greatest golf course ever.

There were some there are some news clippings that like this is this might be this not only might be this is probably certainly the greatest golf course ever.

Like there are some quotes like I just made something great and I know it.

Like there are some quotes like I just made something great and I know it.

But he he held these two things at once.

But he he held these two things at once.

And I think that's kind of a fun thing.

And I think that's kind of a fun thing.

quality about him.

quality about him.