Charlie Van Kirk

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1,326 appearances 5 recordings 2 series first heard May 2026 last heard 12 Aug

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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast · 1164: Pete Dye Deep Dive Part 1 · 27 May 2026 podcast

yeah yeah we're talking 150 members neil boys only full boys club according to pro publica on the internet i don't know if this is all accurate it's about a 750k initiation okay uh yeah which the men only uh situation is interesting that's going to come up later uh and i think is is compelling from

Before I answer that question, can I just jump on to emphasize what you just said about Fred Jones essentially telling him, go do it, you're in charge.

Contextually, early in Pete and Alice's careers,

They got, I don't know about a blank check, but they got this guy who they described as, Alice described as a lovable dictator.

He was an autocratic owner, but he was well-resourced, this insurance magnate.

And he said, you guys go do it.

Go build something that looks like it's been here forever as soon as it's finished.

No, that was for the golf club.

Yes.

And so they get...

carte blanche to, to go make something cool.

There's not going to be any housing on property free from encroachment.

Pete made a mistake of asking Fred Jones where the housing is going to go.

And Fred almost fired him on the spot for asking the question.

I think, I think Pete said, as soon as I asked the question, I saw his look and I knew I'd made a mistake, almost lost the job, but was, was left to go run with it.

Like, you know, I, I,

I am not a golf course designer, had never been one, but it doesn't seem like it's an easy world in which to get jobs.

And when you do get jobs, I think it's probably pretty common that golf courses have housing nearby or the course is built as an amenity.

So I think it's, it was just huge that, that they said, all right, let's go, let's go make something great and turn it into a calling card, which is what they did.

Yeah.

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