Chase Jarvis

That's not to say we don't advertise and that's not to say we don't want more traffic, but it's more community focused rather than it's not a two sided marketplace to us that just dilutes the shit out of the landscape.

Well, some of our competitors where anyone in the world can put up a course.

then you don't have, there's, there's no sort of authenticity or authority.

You don't have to be an expert to put up a class.

And so you're, it's up to the student or the user to go through and suss through all the BS.

And for us, I mean, we have, you want to enter entrepreneurs, you know, we have Richard Branson, Mark Cuban, Arianna Huffington, you want photographers, we've got, you know, Vince LaFerre, Sue Bryce, Jasmine, just like the best in each discipline.

And we carry the hell out of those people and they want to go hang where other people who are the best in the world teach.

And

We just have understood that that's what our students come to CreativeLive for.

They know that we've curated that experience.

Well, let's talk about those two things separately, because I think.

First and foremost, I have no desire to limit where creators can go make their living.

The CreativeLive contract from the person who's on the platform was created out of my personal experience.

Having been the person on the other side being asked to speak all over the world and whatnot, we designed our contracts and our relationship with them that, hey, we're just going to do the best.

We're going to be the place where you know that the content is super well produced.

You're super well curated.

You hang with the best people in the world.

If you want to go across the street and teach the same thing tomorrow, more power to you.

You're going to end up coming back because of the service, because of what we provide, because of who we are and the value that we create for you.

And so it's really I want to be really clear that that we have a confidence in that.