Chris Christie

That I did run against him in 2016.

That I did run against him in 2016.

That's different. Well, no, no, no. It became pretty clear early that he became the front runner. Well... And I'm not one of those people who... tries to hit in the side pocket, John, as you know. Right, right, right. I went right at him in 2016. No question. And in 2024. But I believed in the system that we just talked about. Okay. And I said, okay, this is who the people have chosen.

That's different. Well, no, no, no. It became pretty clear early that he became the front runner. Well... And I'm not one of those people who... tries to hit in the side pocket, John, as you know. Right, right, right. I went right at him in 2016. No question. And in 2024. But I believed in the system that we just talked about. Okay. And I said, okay, this is who the people have chosen.

I'm going to go try to make him better. I'm going to work within the system to try to make him better. And that's what I did in 2016 and throughout the first term of his presidency was to continue to be the agitator to him to try to do things differently. And one of the people had known him for a long time, so I could get him on the phone and say, this is wrong.

I'm going to go try to make him better. I'm going to work within the system to try to make him better. And that's what I did in 2016 and throughout the first term of his presidency was to continue to be the agitator to him to try to do things differently. And one of the people had known him for a long time, so I could get him on the phone and say, this is wrong.

Suggest people to serve that I think would make it better. That was a manifestation of my belief in the system. And what I concluded on the evening of 2020 was he didn't give a damn about the system right down to its very basic, which was the democratic act of electing a president. And that's when I said, I'm out. Do you still believe in the system? I do.

Suggest people to serve that I think would make it better. That was a manifestation of my belief in the system. And what I concluded on the evening of 2020 was he didn't give a damn about the system right down to its very basic, which was the democratic act of electing a president. And that's when I said, I'm out. Do you still believe in the system? I do.

And the reason that I still believe in the system is because there's no frigging alternative. Well, apparently there's a bunch of alternatives. There's not. I mean, and I don't think there will be one with him either. You know, I still believe that. And you talked about the consent of the governed. That's why we have elections every two years. Now, if he does the things that I fear he will do.

And the reason that I still believe in the system is because there's no frigging alternative. Well, apparently there's a bunch of alternatives. There's not. I mean, and I don't think there will be one with him either. You know, I still believe that. And you talked about the consent of the governed. That's why we have elections every two years. Now, if he does the things that I fear he will do.

No, I think the chaos is being done because that's the way he loves to operate. That's where he is most comfortable. He is most comfortable in chaos. And he's most comfortable in having people fight with each other and have him be the ultimate arbiter of those fights. He loves that. He loves the interchange and the back and forth, not for educational purposes.

No, I think the chaos is being done because that's the way he loves to operate. That's where he is most comfortable. He is most comfortable in chaos. And he's most comfortable in having people fight with each other and have him be the ultimate arbiter of those fights. He loves that. He loves the interchange and the back and forth, not for educational purposes.

So this is all just a fucking episode of The Apprentice? It's all a TV show.

So this is all just a fucking episode of The Apprentice? It's all a TV show.

It's all a TV show, John. Look, John, what have you heard him say about the way he makes selections for positions?

It's all a TV show, John. Look, John, what have you heard him say about the way he makes selections for positions?

The greatest compliment he feels like he can give to anyone, which he said about Pete Hegseth, for instance, was he's out of central casting. And so for anybody to think that this is anything other than that, but with real-life ramifications, has not watched him over this period of time. Now... There will be things that he will do that I will agree with philosophically.

The greatest compliment he feels like he can give to anyone, which he said about Pete Hegseth, for instance, was he's out of central casting. And so for anybody to think that this is anything other than that, but with real-life ramifications, has not watched him over this period of time. Now... There will be things that he will do that I will agree with philosophically.

But the problem for me is I cannot rationalize away the character mistakes, the pettiness, the vindictiveness, and all the rest of it by saying, yeah, but I agree with him on what he's doing on fill in the blank, whatever it might be. And that's where you have a lot of Republicans right now are rationalizing it that way. Well, I agree with this, but I don't like him.

But the problem for me is I cannot rationalize away the character mistakes, the pettiness, the vindictiveness, and all the rest of it by saying, yeah, but I agree with him on what he's doing on fill in the blank, whatever it might be. And that's where you have a lot of Republicans right now are rationalizing it that way. Well, I agree with this, but I don't like him.