Chris Cuomo
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first heard Feb 2025
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And that's what they're doing. They're going to a place and they're getting people who are also there with other illegal entrants. So they're getting like eight people when they were looking for one specifically. What do you mean they're there with other illegal entrants?
They're illegal themselves. They're all illegal.
Yeah, they live there. They work there. They're hanging out there. Whatever it is.
I get it. I get it. But the idea of what the law is is pretty clear. The idea of whether everybody is the same within that bucket is not true. For instance, Dreamers. I only feel complete compassion for this group of people
who have, through no will of their own, have been put in a position where they are not able to succeed or fail on their own merits in this country because of their designation as Dreamers. Trump agrees with that. He was going to do it as a one-off in his first term, and the Republicans wouldn't let him, if you'll remember. Why?
Because they had givebacks that they wanted, chain migration and other things. The dreamer should be taken care of and taken out of this equation. And the fact that it's not is just ugly politics.
DACA has a specific legal definition.
You can't spend your way out of the problem. And it is a great, if misleading, statistic that we pay the most and we get the least. There are a lot of problems with the cost structure, and that is also state by state.
It's misleading in that the reason it is expensive is because what goes into government funding in the first place. If you look at the funding, it's not that the kid gets $9,000 a year. It's that the system of what the unions have to – what the unions get out of it. and what all the staffing is, and the transportation, and the physical plants.
There's all this other stuff that goes in it that's all very expensive in America. So that's not why you're failing. Why you're failing is very complicated. Getting rid of the DOE isn't going to necessarily automatically make things better because the states will have more control. Milton Friedman was very good on this. Get rid of the Department of Education.
He would say yes, but then when you asked him for the rationale, he would wind up really just, it's about scaling. And again, these are political choices. Can Trump do it alone? No, that's easy. That's Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. If Congress funds it, Congress controls its existence. So you need Congress to get rid of a government agency.
Oh, just like any other law. You don't need a supermajority or anything like that. But you need a congressional act. But that's not the point. He doesn't have to get rid of it to gut it. So he could get rid of it. He could scale it down, but he cannot eliminate an agency. And that's okay, because that's not really the debate we're having. That's the debate they'll make.
That's what Roe is doing, whom I also think is a fair broker, and I love having him on my show. But it's not about him overtaking constitutional power. That's not where we are. It's about how do you do this better? And everybody knows, look, I'll tell you what a taxpayer wouldn't argue with, okay?
I'm going to raise your taxes and we're going to have kids in school longer than anybody else in the world. And we're going to have the school day longer. We're going to feed them differently. We're going to educate them. We're going to exercise them. And we're going to do all these things that aren't getting done by families in this country anymore.
I don't think taxpayers would have the same kind of problem that they do right now because it's about the return on investment. All these kids are failing in the schools. Why? Because the standards have sunk. They're dealing with all these things that aren't education related. And there is no real incentive to succeed for any of these places. Nobody gets punished if their kids don't do well.
So you can do it without getting rid of the DOE. You can keep the parts that work and you get rid of the parts that don't. And these are political judgments. The president can do a lot of it on his own. If he can't, then he turns to his party. and says, this is what I want.
I don't think they're going to get rid of the entire agency. But again, you don't have to to make the kinds of changes that are being discussed.
Yeah. But this has existed for a long time. And we have a culture of accommodation, not of excellence. One of the reasons you guys have been able to distinguish yourselves is that Pat is so results focused and oriented. You do not have that in our culture in a lot of places, specifically within our systems. You don't have it. You don't have it in our government.
You don't have it in our education system.
Look, I mean, I don't think these are new arguments. The question gets into, well, how do you change it? And the biggest thing in politics that people don't want to touch, you will not hear, whether it's Trump, I don't care who the politician is, no one's going to say, You know, Pat, your kids aren't doing well. You're not getting it done as a parent. How much phone time you letting them have?
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