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We're talking with Bill McKibben about environmentalism and the fight against climate change.

I want to go back to something you said earlier, which is that one of the really important parts for you in doing this work is having a connection to nature and to what you're fighting for.

Where do you get that connection?

How can a person who's not an acclaimed writer and environmentalist do their own version of bearing witness to the earth?

All you have to do is

That gives me a lot of hope.

What are some things that make you hopeful about the possibility of tackling climate change?

It's interesting to hear you say the part about the big brain, because I do feel like there's a subset of people, at least that I hear from sometimes now, who seem to think that we can continue to live exactly the way we're living now and that there will be some.

to be determined, as yet unknown, giant technological breakthrough that will allow us to just keep doing exactly what we do and not have any other negative effects.

That's actually the same for me, too.

The solar panels on my roof here are powering both ends of this conversation are being powered by solar at this moment.

There you go.

A lot of the issue.

at least as far as the culture shift that needs to happen seems to me to be a little bit of having to admit that this framework that we've been operating under, that we can take whatever we want as much as we want and waste as much as we want was wrong.

And we kind of need to apologize for that and make amends.

And there's a lot of people who don't like to apologize and they don't like to admit that they're wrong.

And I,