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to be determined, as yet unknown, giant technological breakthrough that will allow us to just keep doing exactly what we do and not have any other negative effects.

That's actually the same for me, too.

The solar panels on my roof here are powering both ends of this conversation are being powered by solar at this moment.

There you go.

A lot of the issue.

at least as far as the culture shift that needs to happen seems to me to be a little bit of having to admit that this framework that we've been operating under, that we can take whatever we want as much as we want and waste as much as we want was wrong.

And we kind of need to apologize for that and make amends.

And there's a lot of people who don't like to apologize and they don't like to admit that they're wrong.

And I,

I wonder, sometimes it's framed as we have to figure out these new ideas, but it seems like actually a lot of these ideas are the ones that Native and Indigenous people had been and have been doing for a long time of being good stewards of the planet and being more communally minded.

Because of your work with Third Act, we've talked a lot about what older folks can do to be a part of this.

What about a little bit on what young people who are just coming into their own independence and adulthood?

Well, Bill McKibben, thank you for your time.

It's been an absolute pleasure talking to you.

A great pleasure for me, too.

Many thanks, man.

That is it for today's episode of How to Be a Better Human.

Thank you so much to today's guest, Bill McKibben.

You can find out more about his work at 350.org and thirdact.org.

I am your host, Chris Duffy, and you can find more from me, including my weekly newsletter and information about my live comedy shows at chrisduffycomedy.com.