Chris Duffy

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I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

When I was a senior in college, I lived in a big off-campus house with a bunch of friends.

And we made some perfunctory attempts at cleaning the house and taking care of basic maintenance.

But I would not say that having nine college guys living in your property is going to lead to sparkling hygiene, should we say.

So when we moved out of this house, the landlord kept most of our security deposit.

And we were outraged by that.

I mean, come on, we weren't that bad.

But the landlord insisted that he needed it to pay for professional cleaners.

And worse, when he took our money, he also gave us this full on guilt trip.

He said, and I quote, I thought you were good guys.

You seem to care.

Now, I would like to think that I have become much better at being a responsible caretaker of the places that I call home these days.

But when it comes to all of us as a species, we are not doing so great for planet Earth.

We are on track to lose our full security deposit.

Today's guest, Bill McKibben, he has spent decades trying to teach humanity how to be better tenants of this planet.

His first book, The End of Nature, was published in 1989, and since then he has written over a dozen more, becoming one of the most prominent environmentalists around.