Chris Duffy

And now it seems like part of the challenge is how do we weave a better, sustainable narrative of what our world is and what our country is that will allow us to actually survive into the next 100 years, 200 years and beyond.

Doesn't that then lead to a real difficulty in making progress, which is that anything short of 100% feels worthless?

It seems like there was this moment during the pandemic where at great cost, we did have a vision of what an entirely different relationship to the economy, to travel, to the climate could be.

And I'm certainly not trying to say that was a good thing.

Obviously, that came at an incredible cost of human lives, of suffering, of poverty, of all sorts of issues.

However...

It's been disheartening to me to see that we've kind of come out of this inflection point, and it seems like we're trying to claw back to exactly where we were.

What doors did that open for you in terms of perceptions of the future and possibilities?

And is there a way that a healthy planet can coexist with a healthy global economy?

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We're talking with Bill McKibben about environmentalism and the fight against climate change.

I want to go back to something you said earlier, which is that one of the really important parts for you in doing this work is having a connection to nature and to what you're fighting for.

Where do you get that connection?

How can a person who's not an acclaimed writer and environmentalist do their own version of bearing witness to the earth?