Chris Hayes

I mean, that's nice. That's all nice. That's fine. That's fine. But Donald Trump is like tearing apart the government right now. And you are plausibly supposed to be one of the people running against him in 2028. Like he is shutting down all grants for any organization. He's firing people. That's a night of the long knives. And you're like, you know, we got to find some common ground right now.

I mean, that's nice. That's all nice. That's fine. That's fine. But Donald Trump is like tearing apart the government right now. And you are plausibly supposed to be one of the people running against him in 2028. Like he is shutting down all grants for any organization. He's firing people. That's a night of the long knives. And you're like, you know, we got to find some common ground right now.

I mean, that's nice. That's all nice. That's fine. That's fine. But Donald Trump is like tearing apart the government right now. And you are plausibly supposed to be one of the people running against him in 2028. Like he is shutting down all grants for any organization. He's firing people. That's a night of the long knives. And you're like, you know, we got to find some common ground right now.

I wanted to beat you to the punch.

I wanted to beat you to the punch.

I wanted to beat you to the punch.

I do think, though, that presidential races and governors races, we kind of like lump all this stuff together. I told the president is just totally different. Yeah, it's a different in 1992. It was so, you know, I said this about Jebo. He's like. He was very much like his father, like his father in 1992 was in a good shape to run a presidential race. It was a very different world. Right.

I do think, though, that presidential races and governors races, we kind of like lump all this stuff together. I told the president is just totally different. Yeah, it's a different in 1992. It was so, you know, I said this about Jebo. He's like. He was very much like his father, like his father in 1992 was in a good shape to run a presidential race. It was a very different world. Right.

I do think, though, that presidential races and governors races, we kind of like lump all this stuff together. I told the president is just totally different. Yeah, it's a different in 1992. It was so, you know, I said this about Jebo. He's like. He was very much like his father, like his father in 1992 was in a good shape to run a presidential race. It was a very different world. Right.

And I don't think H.W. Bush would have been president if he was running in 2016. It would have been like Mitt Romney probably would have been that sort of race. Right. It's just it's a different time. And you can be Tony Evers and be a good governor of Wisconsin who is cautious and whatever. But like the type of attention on a presidential race, Roy Cooper. Yeah, Roy Cooper.

And I don't think H.W. Bush would have been president if he was running in 2016. It would have been like Mitt Romney probably would have been that sort of race. Right. It's just it's a different time. And you can be Tony Evers and be a good governor of Wisconsin who is cautious and whatever. But like the type of attention on a presidential race, Roy Cooper. Yeah, Roy Cooper.

And I don't think H.W. Bush would have been president if he was running in 2016. It would have been like Mitt Romney probably would have been that sort of race. Right. It's just it's a different time. And you can be Tony Evers and be a good governor of Wisconsin who is cautious and whatever. But like the type of attention on a presidential race, Roy Cooper. Yeah, Roy Cooper.

People don't talk about their governors, right? You're on the local... Really, governor's races are not all that different from 1992. They're a little different, but not all that different. Presidential races now are all consuming. They're like celebrity figures. You're talking about them on the Nelk Boys and on Sports Fog. And fitness influencers. Everybody's talking about them.

People don't talk about their governors, right? You're on the local... Really, governor's races are not all that different from 1992. They're a little different, but not all that different. Presidential races now are all consuming. They're like celebrity figures. You're talking about them on the Nelk Boys and on Sports Fog. And fitness influencers. Everybody's talking about them.

People don't talk about their governors, right? You're on the local... Really, governor's races are not all that different from 1992. They're a little different, but not all that different. Presidential races now are all consuming. They're like celebrity figures. You're talking about them on the Nelk Boys and on Sports Fog. And fitness influencers. Everybody's talking about them.

You know what I mean? It's different.

You know what I mean? It's different.

You know what I mean? It's different.

I was like, I'm not sure this works for him.

I was like, I'm not sure this works for him.