Chris Hayes

So then this leads to the more grown-up problems, which is the thing that really resonated with me, which was an attention-recognition paradox. Yeah. And you write about how a lot of the people that are ruining our society right now have been unable to navigate the attention-recognition paradox, but I think it's something that all of us deal with. So talk about that a little bit.

So then this leads to the more grown-up problems, which is the thing that really resonated with me, which was an attention-recognition paradox. Yeah. And you write about how a lot of the people that are ruining our society right now have been unable to navigate the attention-recognition paradox, but I think it's something that all of us deal with. So talk about that a little bit.

So then this leads to the more grown-up problems, which is the thing that really resonated with me, which was an attention-recognition paradox. Yeah. And you write about how a lot of the people that are ruining our society right now have been unable to navigate the attention-recognition paradox, but I think it's something that all of us deal with. So talk about that a little bit.

Oh, my God. Do you feel that? I feel it in a big way. No, this is what I literally had to do. I was doing therapy about because I was like – You write at length in the book about famous people reading their comments. And you admitted to the fact that you once searched Chris, not once, but at one time in your life before you dealt with us, you had searched Chris Hayes. It was like name searching.

Oh, my God. Do you feel that? I feel it in a big way. No, this is what I literally had to do. I was doing therapy about because I was like – You write at length in the book about famous people reading their comments. And you admitted to the fact that you once searched Chris, not once, but at one time in your life before you dealt with us, you had searched Chris Hayes. It was like name searching.

Oh, my God. Do you feel that? I feel it in a big way. No, this is what I literally had to do. I was doing therapy about because I was like – You write at length in the book about famous people reading their comments. And you admitted to the fact that you once searched Chris, not once, but at one time in your life before you dealt with us, you had searched Chris Hayes. It was like name searching.

Read mean people attack you. And it was like, why is this? Why do I care? Why is this happening? you know, something that people who are successful, like, shouldn't they feel fulfilled?

Read mean people attack you. And it was like, why is this? Why do I care? Why is this happening? you know, something that people who are successful, like, shouldn't they feel fulfilled?

Read mean people attack you. And it was like, why is this? Why do I care? Why is this happening? you know, something that people who are successful, like, shouldn't they feel fulfilled?

And one of the things that I was, you know, shout out to my therapist was like, that is related to this attention recognition paradox is like, I was getting attention, but I did not necessarily feel good about what I was providing to the world. if that makes sense, right?

And one of the things that I was, you know, shout out to my therapist was like, that is related to this attention recognition paradox is like, I was getting attention, but I did not necessarily feel good about what I was providing to the world. if that makes sense, right?

And one of the things that I was, you know, shout out to my therapist was like, that is related to this attention recognition paradox is like, I was getting attention, but I did not necessarily feel good about what I was providing to the world. if that makes sense, right?

And that, like, you can resolve this somewhat, and you still have the human nature of wanting to be liked, but, like, you can resolve it somewhat if you do the internal work to feel good about yourself and you build up relationships with people that value what you're actually doing and that that is... much healthier than the low calorie, you know, retweet attention.

And that, like, you can resolve this somewhat, and you still have the human nature of wanting to be liked, but, like, you can resolve it somewhat if you do the internal work to feel good about yourself and you build up relationships with people that value what you're actually doing and that that is... much healthier than the low calorie, you know, retweet attention.

And that, like, you can resolve this somewhat, and you still have the human nature of wanting to be liked, but, like, you can resolve it somewhat if you do the internal work to feel good about yourself and you build up relationships with people that value what you're actually doing and that that is... much healthier than the low calorie, you know, retweet attention.

And obviously it's, it's not quite as, you know, like the barriers are, are not walls here that you kind of can flow back and forth a little bit between. And I do all the time. Yeah. But, but there was something to that for sure. And I definitely, it resonated for sure.

And obviously it's, it's not quite as, you know, like the barriers are, are not walls here that you kind of can flow back and forth a little bit between. And I do all the time. Yeah. But, but there was something to that for sure. And I definitely, it resonated for sure.

And obviously it's, it's not quite as, you know, like the barriers are, are not walls here that you kind of can flow back and forth a little bit between. And I do all the time. Yeah. But, but there was something to that for sure. And I definitely, it resonated for sure.

Yes. And then it's particularly exacerbated in my case when I was putting out things that I actually didn't think were good for the world. So that's the other side of the same spectrum. That's where it gets even uglier. All right. Last thing, in case Donald Trump shuts down MSNBC, which he's threatening to do, the free speech president, and you have to become a pop psychologist full time.

Yes. And then it's particularly exacerbated in my case when I was putting out things that I actually didn't think were good for the world. So that's the other side of the same spectrum. That's where it gets even uglier. All right. Last thing, in case Donald Trump shuts down MSNBC, which he's threatening to do, the free speech president, and you have to become a pop psychologist full time.