Chris Hayes

That seems a lot cheaper. Way cheaper. The question is, is that like, how is that possible? And I saw there's a lot of, you know, conversation I saw online and you can immediately get into conspiracy land, right? Which is like, are the Chinese, are they lying about this? Like, was it actually that much more expensive? Or, you know, were they using like chips, like American chips, right?

That seems a lot cheaper. Way cheaper. The question is, is that like, how is that possible? And I saw there's a lot of, you know, conversation I saw online and you can immediately get into conspiracy land, right? Which is like, are the Chinese, are they lying about this? Like, was it actually that much more expensive? Or, you know, were they using like chips, like American chips, right?

It's like, what, like, what is at this point, like the consensus on like how and why they managed to create a model that's so much cheaper?

It's like, what, like, what is at this point, like the consensus on like how and why they managed to create a model that's so much cheaper?

It's like, what, like, what is at this point, like the consensus on like how and why they managed to create a model that's so much cheaper?

Have you played with it? So like the DeepSeek, is it just ChatGPT?

Have you played with it? So like the DeepSeek, is it just ChatGPT?

Have you played with it? So like the DeepSeek, is it just ChatGPT?

It's horrible. It's like if you wanted to name something that was in a thriller movie about a computer that takes over the universe, it feels like it's all aimed at that. It's all these sci-fi nerds naming this shit.

It's horrible. It's like if you wanted to name something that was in a thriller movie about a computer that takes over the universe, it feels like it's all aimed at that. It's all these sci-fi nerds naming this shit.

It's horrible. It's like if you wanted to name something that was in a thriller movie about a computer that takes over the universe, it feels like it's all aimed at that. It's all these sci-fi nerds naming this shit.

Holy shit. So like, yeah, so this gets to the kind of CCP of it all. Like, you know, I guess it's hard for me to ask you to, you know, divine the motivations of the people that are behind this new technology, but like... That does seem strange, right?

Holy shit. So like, yeah, so this gets to the kind of CCP of it all. Like, you know, I guess it's hard for me to ask you to, you know, divine the motivations of the people that are behind this new technology, but like... That does seem strange, right?

Holy shit. So like, yeah, so this gets to the kind of CCP of it all. Like, you know, I guess it's hard for me to ask you to, you know, divine the motivations of the people that are behind this new technology, but like... That does seem strange, right?

I guess like the natural concerns that would pop up for people in the political or national security space is, oh, man, like people are going to start using this model. You know, the same kind of data concerns that people have about TikTok might be relevant here. The same concerns about Twitter. Who knows how they can jigger the algorithm in various ways that might be pernicious.

I guess like the natural concerns that would pop up for people in the political or national security space is, oh, man, like people are going to start using this model. You know, the same kind of data concerns that people have about TikTok might be relevant here. The same concerns about Twitter. Who knows how they can jigger the algorithm in various ways that might be pernicious.

I guess like the natural concerns that would pop up for people in the political or national security space is, oh, man, like people are going to start using this model. You know, the same kind of data concerns that people have about TikTok might be relevant here. The same concerns about Twitter. Who knows how they can jigger the algorithm in various ways that might be pernicious.

But if it's open source and people can build on it off of their platform, then a lot of those security and other related concerns don't seem to be as stark. But then you kind of wonder, well, shouldn't the CCP have some feelings about that?

But if it's open source and people can build on it off of their platform, then a lot of those security and other related concerns don't seem to be as stark. But then you kind of wonder, well, shouldn't the CCP have some feelings about that?

But if it's open source and people can build on it off of their platform, then a lot of those security and other related concerns don't seem to be as stark. But then you kind of wonder, well, shouldn't the CCP have some feelings about that?