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Chris Hayes

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1008 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

He's also genuinely qualified for the job.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

He's also genuinely qualified for the job.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

I mean, I think that I don't have a worked out theory for how to deal with that, but I think it's a good point. I have a broader thing I've been thinking about a lot. This phrase that is like on a brainstorming notepad of mine and I've thought about a million versions of it. The phrase is the opposite of doom.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

I mean, I think that I don't have a worked out theory for how to deal with that, but I think it's a good point. I have a broader thing I've been thinking about a lot. This phrase that is like on a brainstorming notepad of mine and I've thought about a million versions of it. The phrase is the opposite of doom.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

And I think about this a lot because I think that we live in a doom-obsessed time, doom-scrolling. We do not live in an age in which we have a conception of the opposite of doom. We do not live in an age where we have a lot of conceptualizations of utopias. You know, there's different ages where all sorts of different people are planning their utopias.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

And I think about this a lot because I think that we live in a doom-obsessed time, doom-scrolling. We do not live in an age in which we have a conception of the opposite of doom. We do not live in an age where we have a lot of conceptualizations of utopias. You know, there's different ages where all sorts of different people are planning their utopias.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

Spiritual leaders, architects, political leaders, this is it. This is what it's going to look like when we figure it all out. No one does that anymore. I mean, literally no one does that. Like, I can't think of a modern...

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

Spiritual leaders, architects, political leaders, this is it. This is what it's going to look like when we figure it all out. No one does that anymore. I mean, literally no one does that. Like, I can't think of a modern...

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

contemporary version of utopia maybe in some version the sort of trump i'll fix everything personalist is the closest we get personalist vision of fixing everything and the reason i think about this is i think it's probably really important to us in our collective public and individually to put our attention towards a vision of what we think something great would be

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

contemporary version of utopia maybe in some version the sort of trump i'll fix everything personalist is the closest we get personalist vision of fixing everything and the reason i think about this is i think it's probably really important to us in our collective public and individually to put our attention towards a vision of what we think something great would be

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

And it relates to this question about the individual coverage decisions, which are absolutely affected by negativity bias, like 100%. And conflict, too. Like, there's a fight over Exeth, as there should be, and there's not a fight over Rubio, and the conflict drives the news. I mean, that's as old as news.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

And it relates to this question about the individual coverage decisions, which are absolutely affected by negativity bias, like 100%. And conflict, too. Like, there's a fight over Exeth, as there should be, and there's not a fight over Rubio, and the conflict drives the news. I mean, that's as old as news.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

But the reason I bring all this up is because I sometimes think about it just in terms of like putting attention on things that have worked as opposed to things that haven't worked. So not so much about individuals or members of the cabinet. But like I was thinking about this the other day, like 30 years ago, it just was inconceivable we would cure HIV AIDS. It's amazing how...

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

But the reason I bring all this up is because I sometimes think about it just in terms of like putting attention on things that have worked as opposed to things that haven't worked. So not so much about individuals or members of the cabinet. But like I was thinking about this the other day, like 30 years ago, it just was inconceivable we would cure HIV AIDS. It's amazing how...

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

that we essentially have. And we've done it through the labor and work of people across all sectors of society over the course of decades that took a thing that just felt horrible and intractable and made it so much better. And there's just so much less attention on those stories. And I think it is making it harder and harder for us to conceptualize that it is possible even.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

that we essentially have. And we've done it through the labor and work of people across all sectors of society over the course of decades that took a thing that just felt horrible and intractable and made it so much better. And there's just so much less attention on those stories. And I think it is making it harder and harder for us to conceptualize that it is possible even.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

to do good things and to solve problems.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

to do good things and to solve problems.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

I want to make a point that I'm afraid is like boringly technical after what you just said, which I am chewing on. I also think the technological infrastructure of podcasts matters tremendously. That line from, I forget who wrote, wherever you get your podcasts, it's a radical statement.

The Ezra Klein Show
Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

I want to make a point that I'm afraid is like boringly technical after what you just said, which I am chewing on. I also think the technological infrastructure of podcasts matters tremendously. That line from, I forget who wrote, wherever you get your podcasts, it's a radical statement.