Chris Koerner

And we know that like probably my boss will take me back.

Like we have kind of these safety nets.

That's like the perfect time to really burn the boats.

Not when like we have an idea or we've tested it a little bit, but not thoroughly.

That's too soon in my opinion.

And by burn the boats, you mean the analogy of, I guess, some of the wartime leaders who would pull up on an island that they were invading and burn the boat so that they had no plan B. Exactly.

Do you think that really matters, the whole idea of a plan B?

Do you think people should have a plan B when they embark on entrepreneurship?

Can I contradict myself?

A hundred percent.

All right.

So the rational Chris, the Chris with four kids says, absolutely.

Like you gotta be a dad.

You gotta be a husband.

You gotta provide for your family.

Right.

And again, there's so many tools out there for testing, for scaling, for outsourcing.

We can find a business partner to help pick up the slack.

We can use our kids.

We can use our spouse, whatever.