Chris Lattner

If you zoom in from the big problem into recruiting, well, so here's our problem.

Okay, I'll just, I'll be very straightforward about this.

We started Modular with a lot of conviction about, we understand the problems, we understand the customer pain points, we need to work backwards from the suffering in the industry.

And if we solve those problems, we think it'll be useful for people.

But the problem is, is that the people we need to hire, as you say, are all these super specialized people that have jobs at big tech worlds, right?

And I don't think we have product market fit in the way that a normal startup does, or we don't have product market fit challenges because right now everybody's using AI and so many of them are suffering and they want help.

And so again, we started with strong conviction.

Now,

Again, you have to hire and recruit the best, and the best all have jobs.

And so what we've done is we've said, okay, well, let's build an amazing culture.

Start with that.

That's usually not something a company starts with.

Usually you hire a bunch of people, and then people start fighting, and it turns into a gigantic mess.

And then you try to figure out how to improve your culture later.

My co-founder, Tim, in particular, is super passionate about making sure that that's right, and we've spent a lot of time early on to make sure that we can scale.

So, I mean, there's many different cultures, and I have learned many things from many different people.

And some of them I learned what to do, and some of them I learned what not to do.

And so we want an inclusive culture.

I believe in amazing people working together,

And so I've seen cultures where people, you have amazing people and they're fighting each other.