Chris Naugle

When I got in these dark places, I've been there so many times, all I remembered is there's no way to fail except for quit.

So you just can't quit.

And you just got to keep going.

And it just gets worse and worse.

And you just think, wow, I thought it was at the bottom.

And now I'm even going further.

But eventually, what you learn at the bottom catapults you back out of it.

And you never go there again.

But then you learn other things.

So I know that's a long answer to your question.

But like Rad, the movie, and what I saw and learned in that movie and what I lived after it.

And Earl Nightingale, the difference between success and failure is creation.

Just keep creating.

There's a whole documentary about this whole thing.

It's interesting.

You said we're off topic, but we're right on topic.

It's like everything you just said, that perseverance, that 25 year journey

I'm just going to call him Crew Jones just because that's forever his name to me, has never given up on his dream.

And it took him 25 years.

But listen, it's not about how long it takes you to hit your dreams.