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Chris Olah

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
762 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

Um, and I've wondered before, is it the case that what you're seeing is kind of like the average, it turns out, you know, if you think about people who have to talk to a lot of people and be very charismatic, um, One of the weird things is that I'm like, well, they're kind of incentivized to have these extremely boring views. Because if you have really interesting views, you're divisive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

Um, and I've wondered before, is it the case that what you're seeing is kind of like the average, it turns out, you know, if you think about people who have to talk to a lot of people and be very charismatic, um, One of the weird things is that I'm like, well, they're kind of incentivized to have these extremely boring views. Because if you have really interesting views, you're divisive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And a lot of people are not going to like you. So if you have very extreme policy positions, I think you're just going to be less popular as a politician, for example. Um, and it might be similar with like creative work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And a lot of people are not going to like you. So if you have very extreme policy positions, I think you're just going to be less popular as a politician, for example. Um, and it might be similar with like creative work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And a lot of people are not going to like you. So if you have very extreme policy positions, I think you're just going to be less popular as a politician, for example. Um, and it might be similar with like creative work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

If you produce creative work that is just trying to maximize the kind of number of people that like it, you're probably not going to get as many people who just absolutely love it. Um, because it's going to be a little bit, you know, you're like, Oh, this is the app. Yes, this is decent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

If you produce creative work that is just trying to maximize the kind of number of people that like it, you're probably not going to get as many people who just absolutely love it. Um, because it's going to be a little bit, you know, you're like, Oh, this is the app. Yes, this is decent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

If you produce creative work that is just trying to maximize the kind of number of people that like it, you're probably not going to get as many people who just absolutely love it. Um, because it's going to be a little bit, you know, you're like, Oh, this is the app. Yes, this is decent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And so you can do this thing where I have various prompting things that I'll do to get Claude to, I'll do a lot of like, this is your chance to be fully creative. I want you to just think about this for a long time. And I want you to create a poem about this topic that is really expressive of you, both in terms of how you think poetry should be structured, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And so you can do this thing where I have various prompting things that I'll do to get Claude to, I'll do a lot of like, this is your chance to be fully creative. I want you to just think about this for a long time. And I want you to create a poem about this topic that is really expressive of you, both in terms of how you think poetry should be structured, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And so you can do this thing where I have various prompting things that I'll do to get Claude to, I'll do a lot of like, this is your chance to be fully creative. I want you to just think about this for a long time. And I want you to create a poem about this topic that is really expressive of you, both in terms of how you think poetry should be structured, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And you just give it this really long prompt. And its poems are just so much better. They're really good. And I don't think I'm someone who is... I think it got me interested in poetry, which I think was interesting. I would read these poems and just be like, I love the imagery. I love... And it's not trivial to get the models to produce work like that, but when they do, it's really good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And you just give it this really long prompt. And its poems are just so much better. They're really good. And I don't think I'm someone who is... I think it got me interested in poetry, which I think was interesting. I would read these poems and just be like, I love the imagery. I love... And it's not trivial to get the models to produce work like that, but when they do, it's really good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

And you just give it this really long prompt. And its poems are just so much better. They're really good. And I don't think I'm someone who is... I think it got me interested in poetry, which I think was interesting. I would read these poems and just be like, I love the imagery. I love... And it's not trivial to get the models to produce work like that, but when they do, it's really good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

So I think that's interesting, that just encouraging creativity and for them to move away from the kind of standard, immediate reaction that might just be the aggregate of what most people think is fine can actually produce things that, at least to my mind, are probably a little bit more divisive, but I like them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

So I think that's interesting, that just encouraging creativity and for them to move away from the kind of standard, immediate reaction that might just be the aggregate of what most people think is fine can actually produce things that, at least to my mind, are probably a little bit more divisive, but I like them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

So I think that's interesting, that just encouraging creativity and for them to move away from the kind of standard, immediate reaction that might just be the aggregate of what most people think is fine can actually produce things that, at least to my mind, are probably a little bit more divisive, but I like them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

I really do think that philosophy has been weirdly helpful for me here more than in many other respects. So in philosophy, what you're trying to do is convey these very hard concepts. One of the things you are taught is like... And I think it is because... I think it is an anti-bullshit device in philosophy. Philosophy is an area where you could have people bullshitting and you don't want that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

I really do think that philosophy has been weirdly helpful for me here more than in many other respects. So in philosophy, what you're trying to do is convey these very hard concepts. One of the things you are taught is like... And I think it is because... I think it is an anti-bullshit device in philosophy. Philosophy is an area where you could have people bullshitting and you don't want that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#452 โ€“ Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

I really do think that philosophy has been weirdly helpful for me here more than in many other respects. So in philosophy, what you're trying to do is convey these very hard concepts. One of the things you are taught is like... And I think it is because... I think it is an anti-bullshit device in philosophy. Philosophy is an area where you could have people bullshitting and you don't want that.