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Chris Pedregal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
308 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give it the context. So I did this. Turned out the shrimp was already cooked. We didn't realize it because it was in Spanish. So we didn't have to cook it at all. We just needed to heat it up. Which never, ever would have figured out if I had just typed it in.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give it the context. So I did this. Turned out the shrimp was already cooked. We didn't realize it because it was in Spanish. So we didn't have to cook it at all. We just needed to heat it up. Which never, ever would have figured out if I had just typed it in.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

An interesting point there is there's just a completely different intuition you need to have around how you use these tools and you build with AI. Perhaps in a similar way where the web came along and people pre-web wouldn't automatically default to using Google. They'd go elsewhere versus people who had grown up, were young enough when that happened. would always default to using Google.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

An interesting point there is there's just a completely different intuition you need to have around how you use these tools and you build with AI. Perhaps in a similar way where the web came along and people pre-web wouldn't automatically default to using Google. They'd go elsewhere versus people who had grown up, were young enough when that happened. would always default to using Google.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think there's going to be a very, very, very similar divide here, which is basically the AI natives will just understand what context they need to give AI and how to work with AI. And actually, when in doubt, you should probably give it more context and see what it's going to say, as opposed to like, assume you know, right? And I'm 38.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think there's going to be a very, very, very similar divide here, which is basically the AI natives will just understand what context they need to give AI and how to work with AI. And actually, when in doubt, you should probably give it more context and see what it's going to say, as opposed to like, assume you know, right? And I'm 38.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I'm very happy the team is constantly pulling me like I'm literally at the forefront and thinking about this all the time. And I don't use AI as much as I should be using it. If that's the case for me, think about the general population.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I'm very happy the team is constantly pulling me like I'm literally at the forefront and thinking about this all the time. And I don't use AI as much as I should be using it. If that's the case for me, think about the general population.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Gathering the context, just getting all the data is not that hard. It's only a matter of time before you can plug in all your email into Anthropic or ChatGPT and all your nodes and all your company documents and all your tweets. And it'll have all that. I think there's a different question, which is which of that context is really relevant for the thing I'm about to do right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Gathering the context, just getting all the data is not that hard. It's only a matter of time before you can plug in all your email into Anthropic or ChatGPT and all your nodes and all your company documents and all your tweets. And it'll have all that. I think there's a different question, which is which of that context is really relevant for the thing I'm about to do right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And that may be a technical problem. That may be a UI problem. I don't know. So that's on the context side. I do think a huge blocker for unlocking the power of collaborating with AI is what's the UI, what's the interface for collaborating with UI?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And that may be a technical problem. That may be a UI problem. I don't know. So that's on the context side. I do think a huge blocker for unlocking the power of collaborating with AI is what's the UI, what's the interface for collaborating with UI?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I really think we're in the terminal era with old school computers where you type in a command and then the computer would literally spit back a command. The way we work with ChatGPT, I don't think chat's going away, but I think it will feel archaic in how little control you really have as a user. I was looking this up. I was trying to find an analogy for this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I really think we're in the terminal era with old school computers where you type in a command and then the computer would literally spit back a command. The way we work with ChatGPT, I don't think chat's going away, but I think it will feel archaic in how little control you really have as a user. I was looking this up. I was trying to find an analogy for this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

The first cars that came out, they didn't have steering wheels. They had basically a stick that you could turn like left to right. And it was fine if you were trying to go really slow. The moment you went fast, the stick was unusable. You'd move it too much and you'd crash off the road and it was a big security problem.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

The first cars that came out, they didn't have steering wheels. They had basically a stick that you could turn like left to right. And it was fine if you were trying to go really slow. The moment you went fast, the stick was unusable. You'd move it too much and you'd crash off the road and it was a big security problem.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And then finally someone came up with a steering wheel and a steering wheel is a UI that gives you so much fine grain control when you're trying to turn. And I think we still have to invent what the steering wheel is for when you're working with AI and collaborating with AI. Right now we have some very coarse controls and it's turn taking right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And then finally someone came up with a steering wheel and a steering wheel is a UI that gives you so much fine grain control when you're trying to turn. And I think we still have to invent what the steering wheel is for when you're working with AI and collaborating with AI. Right now we have some very coarse controls and it's turn taking right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It's like I write something, then the AI does something, then I react back to it. And I think it's going to be a lot more fluid and a lot more collaborative. Once we figure that out.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It's like I write something, then the AI does something, then I react back to it. And I think it's going to be a lot more fluid and a lot more collaborative. Once we figure that out.