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Chris Pedregal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
308 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It depends on the tool. But right now, it doesn't feel like you and the AI are working on the same canvas. It's like we're working on two separate canvases next to each other. This is a very basic thing. But when you're using ChatGPT or Cloud, you can't go and edit the response that the AI gave you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It depends on the tool. But right now, it doesn't feel like you and the AI are working on the same canvas. It's like we're working on two separate canvases next to each other. This is a very basic thing. But when you're using ChatGPT or Cloud, you can't go and edit the response that the AI gave you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

You don't go in there and be like, oh, actually, you know, this point was dumb and let's change the language here. You tell it, please make it shorter as a command. And you hope that it rewrites it in the right way. And that's just going to feel like madness not too long from now. I guess there's a historical parallel here. These things feel very obvious once they're invented.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

You don't go in there and be like, oh, actually, you know, this point was dumb and let's change the language here. You tell it, please make it shorter as a command. And you hope that it rewrites it in the right way. And that's just going to feel like madness not too long from now. I guess there's a historical parallel here. These things feel very obvious once they're invented.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Early computing days, when you were in a text editor, the first text editors, there's this idea of modes. So there's a mode where you're like text insertion mode and you'd go in and you'd write some words and then you'd exit that mode and then you'd go into deletion mode or copy mode. You'd have to enter that mode and make that change.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Early computing days, when you were in a text editor, the first text editors, there's this idea of modes. So there's a mode where you're like text insertion mode and you'd go in and you'd write some words and then you'd exit that mode and then you'd go into deletion mode or copy mode. You'd have to enter that mode and make that change.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And then like Tesla basically went on a vendetta to change this. So now it's actually, you should be able to type and delete and cut and copy and do all that fluidly without entering different modes. And that was unthinkable before we made that jump. So it's kind of hard to imagine what that's going to be for AI. I guarantee it'll feel completely different than what we have now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And then like Tesla basically went on a vendetta to change this. So now it's actually, you should be able to type and delete and cut and copy and do all that fluidly without entering different modes. And that was unthinkable before we made that jump. So it's kind of hard to imagine what that's going to be for AI. I guarantee it'll feel completely different than what we have now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think granularity of control and speed of collaboration are the two things that are going to go way up. So it should be way more fluid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think granularity of control and speed of collaboration are the two things that are going to go way up. So it should be way more fluid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

There are a few things that have jumped out. One is the variety of use cases people use it for. So we built it for work meetings. Very quickly, people started telling us, my partner has cancer. We have all these meetings with doctors. Granola has become absolutely invaluable in that process. I actually don't know I would have managed it before. There's the use case thing that was unexpected.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

There are a few things that have jumped out. One is the variety of use cases people use it for. So we built it for work meetings. Very quickly, people started telling us, my partner has cancer. We have all these meetings with doctors. Granola has become absolutely invaluable in that process. I actually don't know I would have managed it before. There's the use case thing that was unexpected.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Then the other thing is people are... Finding creative ways to get more context into granola that is just not designed for. And this is the, I am brainstorming, brainstorming an idea and I'm just going to create a meeting in granola, like a note in granola and just talk to myself. Or I need to plan out my day.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Then the other thing is people are... Finding creative ways to get more context into granola that is just not designed for. And this is the, I am brainstorming, brainstorming an idea and I'm just going to create a meeting in granola, like a note in granola and just talk to myself. Or I need to plan out my day.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

So I'm just going to talk about the different things going on and then use granola to help prioritize what I'm doing. Or I'm watching a YouTube video on a subject I'm trying to learn. I have granola open and I'm taking notes in there because of that. That's probably the biggest surprise.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

So I'm just going to talk about the different things going on and then use granola to help prioritize what I'm doing. Or I'm watching a YouTube video on a subject I'm trying to learn. I have granola open and I'm taking notes in there because of that. That's probably the biggest surprise.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

The other behavior change, I think I mentioned this before, is that when people go back in Granoa, less and less they read the notes that were there, and more and more they ask the Granoa chat what they're looking for.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

The other behavior change, I think I mentioned this before, is that when people go back in Granoa, less and less they read the notes that were there, and more and more they ask the Granoa chat what they're looking for.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I fully support it. For us, we build on top of foundation models and the speed at which models have gotten better over the last three years is incredible. And I believe that companies like Granola benefit tremendously from the competition between the providers. And as a result, I think users are benefiting tremendously.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I fully support it. For us, we build on top of foundation models and the speed at which models have gotten better over the last three years is incredible. And I believe that companies like Granola benefit tremendously from the competition between the providers. And as a result, I think users are benefiting tremendously.