Chris Pedregal

I'm speaking about granola right now because that's what we're building. Maybe it'll be us, maybe it was someone else, but I guarantee you a tool will be used by everyone basically in this context. As to what the norms are going to be, I personally hate the idea of a hidden pendant that is listening to everything. I know in Silicon Valley, that's one of the visions for the future.

I'm speaking about granola right now because that's what we're building. Maybe it'll be us, maybe it was someone else, but I guarantee you a tool will be used by everyone basically in this context. As to what the norms are going to be, I personally hate the idea of a hidden pendant that is listening to everything. I know in Silicon Valley, that's one of the visions for the future.

And I personally don't like that vision. I think in a work context, the phone is great. because you basically put it down on the table and it is an easy social contract with the people in that meeting of what's happening. That's how we do work at Granola. Basically every meeting at Granola, it's very clear if there's a phone out and whose phone is taking notes.

And I personally don't like that vision. I think in a work context, the phone is great. because you basically put it down on the table and it is an easy social contract with the people in that meeting of what's happening. That's how we do work at Granola. Basically every meeting at Granola, it's very clear if there's a phone out and whose phone is taking notes.

And I think the social contract really matters. It's up to the individual to manage this as it's up to the individual to manage everything in the work environment. I think if you put the phone out and you're upfront about it, everyone benefits. And I think that change will happen, I think, much faster than you expect. Whereas I think in social circles, it will be very different.

And I think the social contract really matters. It's up to the individual to manage this as it's up to the individual to manage everything in the work environment. I think if you put the phone out and you're upfront about it, everyone benefits. And I think that change will happen, I think, much faster than you expect. Whereas I think in social circles, it will be very different.

The two defining characteristics that are different about this space in this moment are one, the speed at which the technology is getting better is nuts. And two, where Grinola is built on top of LLM, so it's an app layer product, we get so much benefit from writing these incredible technological advancements that are happening at the LLM layer. So we spend a lot of our time

The two defining characteristics that are different about this space in this moment are one, the speed at which the technology is getting better is nuts. And two, where Grinola is built on top of LLM, so it's an app layer product, we get so much benefit from writing these incredible technological advancements that are happening at the LLM layer. So we spend a lot of our time

really thinking about what makes a great user experience end to end. And if we weren't building on top of this foundational technical layer like LLM, we'd need a massive team to be able to do what we're doing today. So we really do benefit from that. That said, A lot of what makes Granola great is sweating the details of all these technical edge cases, stuff you'd never think of.

really thinking about what makes a great user experience end to end. And if we weren't building on top of this foundational technical layer like LLM, we'd need a massive team to be able to do what we're doing today. So we really do benefit from that. That said, A lot of what makes Granola great is sweating the details of all these technical edge cases, stuff you'd never think of.

It's like you're in the middle of a meeting and you take off your AirPods and it's on a Zoom call that has multiple channels. And all of a sudden, Granola needs to do something very specific to make that feel seamless that you never would have thought of until you built it and you realize it felt crappy if you didn't do that.

It's like you're in the middle of a meeting and you take off your AirPods and it's on a Zoom call that has multiple channels. And all of a sudden, Granola needs to do something very specific to make that feel seamless that you never would have thought of until you built it and you realize it felt crappy if you didn't do that.

We use as many AI tools as possible for as many things as possible inside of Granola. But some of the tools, at least on the development side, aren't quite there yet. We're so close to take that end to end. So we still have to do a lot of work there. Again, I hate doing time horizon guesses here because it's basically impossible to know.

We use as many AI tools as possible for as many things as possible inside of Granola. But some of the tools, at least on the development side, aren't quite there yet. We're so close to take that end to end. So we still have to do a lot of work there. Again, I hate doing time horizon guesses here because it's basically impossible to know.

If you fast forward us three years, I think the way we would work and what we would be able to outsource to AI would be completely different.

If you fast forward us three years, I think the way we would work and what we would be able to outsource to AI would be completely different.

That's right. Our CTO, Voss, he has a goal, basically minimizing the number of lines of code every engineer writes at Granola every day is a goal of his. It's an active goal. We just did this offsite and the theme was, so the theme was basically use AI everywhere for things you wouldn't expect to. Just push ourselves outside of our comfort zone. And there's this great example.

That's right. Our CTO, Voss, he has a goal, basically minimizing the number of lines of code every engineer writes at Granola every day is a goal of his. It's an active goal. We just did this offsite and the theme was, so the theme was basically use AI everywhere for things you wouldn't expect to. Just push ourselves outside of our comfort zone. And there's this great example.

We were, I was trying to barbecue some shrimp for the team. We bought some shrimp. This was in Spain. I've never barbecued shrimp before. I'm typing into chat GPT, like, okay, how do you barbecue shrimp? And Voss was like, no, give it the right context. So he's like, take a photo of the barbecue and take a photo of the shrimp. And he was totally right.

We were, I was trying to barbecue some shrimp for the team. We bought some shrimp. This was in Spain. I've never barbecued shrimp before. I'm typing into chat GPT, like, okay, how do you barbecue shrimp? And Voss was like, no, give it the right context. So he's like, take a photo of the barbecue and take a photo of the shrimp. And he was totally right.