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Chris Pedregal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
308 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think as a society, we just need to be really thoughtful about the trade-offs is the answer. So I believe that in a couple years, maybe 18 months, speed of AI so fast, doing meetings, doing work without something like Granola will feel like such an impediment that no one's going to want to do it. So everyone's going to be using tools like this because they will be so useful.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I think as a society, we just need to be really thoughtful about the trade-offs is the answer. So I believe that in a couple years, maybe 18 months, speed of AI so fast, doing meetings, doing work without something like Granola will feel like such an impediment that no one's going to want to do it. So everyone's going to be using tools like this because they will be so useful.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Now, there's a real trade-off, like you said, on invasiveness and privacy. And I think as a society, we need to thread the needle where you get maximum usefulness from these tools with the minimum amount of invasiveness. Where that line is going to be and how we navigate that, I don't know. I don't know where we're going to end up.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Now, there's a real trade-off, like you said, on invasiveness and privacy. And I think as a society, we need to thread the needle where you get maximum usefulness from these tools with the minimum amount of invasiveness. Where that line is going to be and how we navigate that, I don't know. I don't know where we're going to end up.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

when we first created Granola, we made a very conscious decision not to record and store any audio. Even though Granola is listening to the audio, it basically transcribes in real time, but it doesn't store any of the audio. And everyone kind of laughed at us for that. Why wouldn't you? Wouldn't the audio be useful? And of course it would be. You want to be able to go back and listen to

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

when we first created Granola, we made a very conscious decision not to record and store any audio. Even though Granola is listening to the audio, it basically transcribes in real time, but it doesn't store any of the audio. And everyone kind of laughed at us for that. Why wouldn't you? Wouldn't the audio be useful? And of course it would be. You want to be able to go back and listen to

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

What exactly did someone say and what was their tone of voice? There's definitely a loss of value for the user because we're not recording the audio. But what it means, though, is that Granola is way less invasive than any of those other AI meeting bots that join your meetings. Those bots record the audio, record the video, and they store it. who knows how long that stuff's around for.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

What exactly did someone say and what was their tone of voice? There's definitely a loss of value for the user because we're not recording the audio. But what it means, though, is that Granola is way less invasive than any of those other AI meeting bots that join your meetings. Those bots record the audio, record the video, and they store it. who knows how long that stuff's around for.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And that feels completely different, in my opinion, than something like Granola, which is generating really nice notes and you have a transcript and it's super useful, but it's much less invasive and much less intrusive. I think there's a real question, which is, what's it like when we're walking around the real world? I think on a Zoom call is one thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And that feels completely different, in my opinion, than something like Granola, which is generating really nice notes and you have a transcript and it's super useful, but it's much less invasive and much less intrusive. I think there's a real question, which is, what's it like when we're walking around the real world? I think on a Zoom call is one thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Usually there's a specific reason for meeting and people understand the context of that meeting and what the expectations are. I think the norms in our social lives will be very, very different than in the workplace is my guess.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Usually there's a specific reason for meeting and people understand the context of that meeting and what the expectations are. I think the norms in our social lives will be very, very different than in the workplace is my guess.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I don't know exactly where that will end up, but I see a pretty stark distinction between in the workplace setting, most people want all these things captured because the AI can provide so much value. to the user, whereas in our social surroundings, I think that'll be a very divisive issue. We'll see how that goes. I could see it, I remember when Google Glass came out, there was a huge backlash.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I don't know exactly where that will end up, but I see a pretty stark distinction between in the workplace setting, most people want all these things captured because the AI can provide so much value. to the user, whereas in our social surroundings, I think that'll be a very divisive issue. We'll see how that goes. I could see it, I remember when Google Glass came out, there was a huge backlash.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I could see a similar backlash happening when AI pendants start becoming popular. You have that one guy showing up at a party and he's recording everything and it pisses off everyone else.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I could see a similar backlash happening when AI pendants start becoming popular. You have that one guy showing up at a party and he's recording everything and it pisses off everyone else.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Our iOS app is launching soon. Sam and I, my co-founder and I, we built this because we wanted it ourselves. We thought it would be useful. We thought it was interesting. And quite frankly, we were really surprised by how it took off and by how once someone starts using Granola for all their important work calls, you basically are outsourcing some of your long-term memory to Granola.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Our iOS app is launching soon. Sam and I, my co-founder and I, we built this because we wanted it ourselves. We thought it would be useful. We thought it was interesting. And quite frankly, we were really surprised by how it took off and by how once someone starts using Granola for all their important work calls, you basically are outsourcing some of your long-term memory to Granola.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

You start to have this expectation that you can go back and look up these important things from any conversation. Some of the most upset emails we get from users are saying exactly what you're saying, which is, hey, a third of my meetings are in person and I'm flying blind. I'm like naked in those meetings. I desperately need granola in person.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

You start to have this expectation that you can go back and look up these important things from any conversation. Some of the most upset emails we get from users are saying exactly what you're saying, which is, hey, a third of my meetings are in person and I'm flying blind. I'm like naked in those meetings. I desperately need granola in person.