Chris Pronger

the grit that I needed to form to get through difficult times.

And a lot of the heartache early in my career helped me get to where I was later in my career.

And I think for a lot of these guys, and I think for fans in general, failure is just looked at as that.

It's, oh, we lost, we failed, the world is falling.

And as athletes, we're used to failing.

You don't want to get used to losing.

You need to use that failing as an opportunity to grow, to get better.

And I'm not sure they're doing that anymore there.

Yeah, and I guess I would just caution.

You've gone through it one time in this tank for Matthews and all this stuff.

It is not pretty, and it doesn't always work out as you think it through.

There's a lot of luck now in the draft.

There's a lot of luck in these draft picks developing into who you think they're going to become.

Buffalo's on year 14.

Now it looks like it's working.

Taking a long time.

And so, you know, I talk to people in Philly.

Like, it's not easy.

Like, you luck out.

They lucked out.