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Chris Sacca

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78 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Put away the phone, Jason.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

How?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

How's it been three years in?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

This is a three year anniversary, like a couple of years, three years.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Did you seed it with Wikipedia?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Actually, take a step back.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

How did you guys, how did you do this?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

But meaning totally unsupervised, just a complete training run on its own, totally synthetic data, no seeded set, nothing?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

This is what I was going to ask you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Do you think that you can take this corpus of pages now and get Google to de-boost Wikipedia or boost Grokopedia in traditional search?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Because a lot of people still find this and they believe that it's authoritative because it comes up number one.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

So how do we do that?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

How do you flip Google?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Wikipedia, yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

When you have this version that's maximally truth-seeking as a model, do you think that there needs to be a better eval or a benchmark that people can point to that shows

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

how off of the truth things are, so that if you're going to start a training run with Common Crawl, or if you're going to use Reddit, or if you're going to use... Is it important to be able to say, hey, hold on a second.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

This eval just... You guys suck on this eval.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

This is crappy data.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Elon Musk: 3 Years of X, OpenAI Lawsuit, Bill Gates, Grokipedia & The Future of Everything

Looking good.