Chris Sullivan
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Which is the point.
And I think it's unavoidable.
Like you said, like sometimes it's not supposed to feel good.
It's not like, this is not a conversation where you should...
come out like patting yourself on the back, like, okay, that's solved.
It's not solved.
It's like this repair is continuous work.
It accumulates over time.
It's not one and done by any means.
So it's like, I just don't think this is a conversation where anybody, any party should come out of it being like,
Okay, well, that's that.
This is not about... This is the start.
And this dude, Ken Olin, I can remember.
I remember there were times, I think, in certain takes where I was like, I give myself a negative direction.
And that negative direction is like, I'm not going to cry.
And it wasn't helpful, right?
Because it sort of...
sort of created this wall.
And he said, all right, Stero, like, I need you to, he said, I don't know if it was loosen up.