The Truth About Laurel | "Forty: Part Two" (502)

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What events surround The Big Three's birth in this episode?

Chris Sullivan 0:01
On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into season five, episode 240, part two. Tensions are running high at the cabin. We continue unraveling the events surrounding the big three's birth, and we learn a surprising revelation about Randall's biological mother. Gang, how's it going? We're good. All right. It seems like another episode, but we're really just continuing. Yeah, we're continuing. The first episode into this episode. We had a lunch break. Going well. And we're excited, right? Had a lovely conversation with Jennifer C. Holmes. And now we're sort of getting into the meat of the back half of the season five premiere. Yes. Right? We ended the episode, like before the next act break or whatever, with...
Chris Sullivan 0:57
Randall on his way to the cabin.

How does Randall's relationship with his biological mother evolve?

Chris Sullivan 0:59
On his way to the cabin. And then at the very beginning of the episode, we're at the cabin. Kevin opens the door to find Randall standing there. Kate said that she called him when she couldn't reach Kevin after discovering Rebecca was lost. So it's the first time these two brothers are seeing each other since we've seen what we saw at the end of season four.
Mandy Moore 1:20
I remember it feeling that way because we didn't just have a hiatus. Right. An extended hiatus. It was extended because of the pandemic. We normally come back in July, yeah. Because we haven't seen them together, it felt like they hadn't seen each other in a long time. Yeah, it really had.
Chris Sullivan 1:40
So there's a couple of things that have happened. At the end of season four, we have Randall doing some very Machiavellian sort of things to get his mom to agree to do this clinical trial. Little mustache twirling.

What humorous behind-the-scenes moments are shared from the set?

Chris Sullivan 1:57
Little bit, little bit. It's not his proudest moment. No, no. For sure. And what I really clocked in this beginning of this episode, this back half of the premiere, is... the judgment or the sort of frustration that he had had with regards to mom's care is sort of like the world happened.
Unknown 2:21
Yeah.
Chris Sullivan 2:22
Do you know what I mean?
Unknown 2:23
Yeah.
Chris Sullivan 2:23
And like, you see Kev sort of being like, you know, look, man, everything was fine with mom. Nothing was going wrong or whatnot. Like she's just something that happened and said, I know you did the best that you could, bro. Like this kind of thing happens. It's all good. Right. Like there's no sort of sense of judgment on the kid's behalf about like, what happened to mom. It's just like, I just want to see my mom.

How do the characters navigate tensions at the cabin?

Chris Sullivan 2:45
Yeah. Make sure she's okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know when was the next time I was going to see my mom, et cetera. And now you told me that she was lost for a second. So I just, I'm here to experience the woman that I love in the best way that I can. And you guys, I know you're doing the best you can.
Mandy Moore 2:59
Right. Right. And the irony of the way the world has unfolded is that for all of the Machiavellian things that he has done, she is now not going to St. Louis. She's not going to St. Louis. And so there is a kind of a feeling of me watching it being like, all that. All that for nothing. All that for nothing. Which you actually couldn't have written. They could not have written it that way because that wouldn't have played.
Chris Sullivan 3:28
It's like, you played that card. Now what happened?
Mandy Moore 3:30
And now because of this thing- We detonated something massive between each other. We're right back where Kevin had left it. Right. Yeah. Right. Which I could sense a little bit of The unspoken I told you so slash embarrassment of that is in the air too, on top of everything else.
Chris Sullivan 3:54
Then as he's going upstairs to see mom, Kate's saying, she says something about, I can only imagine what you're going through right now and it must be hard for you, so thanks for coming.

What significant revelations occur regarding Randall's family dynamics?

Chris Sullivan 4:03
He's like, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah. She in the back? She's up here, right? Yeah. I'll catch you guys in a moment. So at the Cavins, present day, Randall's talking to Rebecca in the bedroom. And I love that he's just sitting there. He's just- Waiting. Just sitting there. I don't want to interrupt anything. And it sort of reminds me of like, there's these times in which I go home and I see mom. And you don't want to wake somebody up.

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