Chris Tarbell

You could literally go on there and ask for a six month old liver, uh, if you wanted to.

For like surgical operations versus something darker.

Yeah.

I never saw anything that dark as far as people like wanted to eat body parts.

Um, I did interview a cannibal once when I was in the FBI.

That's another crazy story.

But, uh,

But that one actually weirded me out.

It was primarily drugs, and that's where it started.

It started off with Ross Ulbrich growing mushrooms out in the wilderness of California and selling them.

But really, his was more of a libertarian viewpoint.

I mean, it was like you choose what you want to do for yourself and do it.

And the way Silk Road kind of had the anonymity is it used what's called Tor, the onion router, which is an anonymizing function on the deep web.

It was actually invented by the U.S.

Navy.

back in the mid-90s or so.

But it also used cryptocurrency.

So it was the first time we saw this birth on the internet of mixing cryptocurrency and an IP blocking software.

So in cybercrime, you go after, one, the IP address and trace it through the network, or two, you go after the cache.

And this one kind of blocked both.