Chris Voss

Yeah.

What's the best conversation you've ever been in?

Except this one, of course.

Wow.

I mean, not the best conversation, but what stands out to you as a conversation that changed you as a person, maybe?

Do those things, like through all the different negotiations and conversations you've had, do they kind of echo throughout?

Like you basically...

Because when you empathize with other human beings, you start to realize we're all the same.

And so you can start to pick little phrases here and there that you've heard from others, little experiences, that we're all about, like we all want to be, to be close with other human beings, we all want love, that we're all,

I think we're all deeply lonely inside and looking for connection.

We're just, if we're honest about it.

And so all humans have that same, all the same different components of connection.

Or what makes them tick?

So you kind of see yourself basically just saying the same things to connect with another human being?

What advice would you give to me to be better at these conversations?

To me and to other people that do kind of interviews and podcasts and so on.

Wow.

Because I really care about empathy as well.

Is there kind of, as a lifelong journey in this process?

No, I mean, I fall in love with people I talk to.