Chris Whipple

is head of HHS.

Trump loves having a Kennedy in his cabinet.

He loved having – being in the room with the daughter of the great Pat Summerall who was kind of a mini John Madden when it came to reeling off scores of football games from bygone days.

He loves that stuff.

But he really does believe –

In two things, above all, Trump, somebody once told me, winning and genes.

Wiles told me that she was initially distraught, as she put it, when she learned that Elon Musk, as part of this kind of scorched earth cost-cutting campaign known as DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, had in effect burned USAID to the ground.

This is the Trump modus operandi.

He's done it in business and he certainly did it in the Trump White House.

And she paints this vivid picture of this odd duck, as she put it, who was up all night, slept during the day in a sleeping bag in the executive office building across from the White House like some kind of jacked up Nosferatu.

But she was really aghast when she discovered

that not only was he cutting stuff that the Trump White House wanted cut, what they considered wasteful, but vital, life-saving immunization programs in Africa.

Not only that, but PEPFAR, the president's emergency program,

for AIDS relief started by George W. Bush with $15 billion back in the early 2000s.

That program was gutted.

She began to get phone calls from relief agencies, former officials, saying that lives were in the balance.

She called Musk in.

tried to fix this, and she knew that fixing it was on her, that Trump couldn't be bothered.

Trump didn't really care what was going on in the so-called smaller agencies, as she put it.

Well, this is absolutely fascinating.