Chrissie Swan

And I think I just wanted to get to that place so much.

I dreamt of, you know how people would be exchange students, Sarah?

Oh, yes, absolutely.

Did you?

I tried and I got knocked back.

Where did you try to go?

I can't think of the company that was doing it at the time.

Anyway, they had like a camp just in a suburban Melbourne house with like 10 or 20 kids that had expressed interest.

Was it called Youth Exchange or something like that?

Anyway, I was certain that I'd nail it.

Anyway, I just must have been too weird and, yeah, access denied.

Really?

No.

Do you have that impression of me?

No.

I've done very little travel.

Isn't it just a highlights reel?

I did shout myself a trip to – because I'd never been to Europe when I turned 50 –

It was just, you know, it was a great source of shame for me from about the age of 27, which appeared to be the general age that most people had been to London and, you know, lived in a flat in Shepherd's Bush and got drunk all the time.

And then that passed me by and then I got to 50 and I'm like, it's embarrassing now.