Christian Howes

And, you know, the idea would be that like, you know, because I had all these good grades and like the full that I should be the one that's teaching.

And I did teach a lot of musicians.

A lot of a lot of people came to me to teach them about music, but I learned more from them, you know.

And so so I think maybe another answer to your question is that through positive relationships is a way to hopefully.

work through some of this shame, to surround yourself with people who see you as human and constantly give you that feedback of valuing that humanity.

I mean, that would probably be one of them is that knowledge comes from in more places and more people than we are taught to believe.

and that we can really enrich our perspectives um the more that we listen to a wide variety of voices that knowledge can come from so many different things i think another lesson that i learned was um that and this is maybe kind of a even a cliche but like when things are hard we have the capability of being hard and when things are not hard we can get soft real quick

And so we have to be, you know, my experience is that we have to constantly be vigilant about that.

Because again, when you're really suffering with things that are hard, you can rise to the occasion.

But it can be easy to become soft and in bad ways.

And in being soft, like not taking care of yourself, you're doing yourself a disservice.

And that's something you have to cultivate.

As far as a third...

third lesson I think that the lesson that I want to always be present to is the lesson that I've also heard you speak eloquently about which is when you came out how much you were how much gratitude you had for the simple things in life that's something that I want to be more present to I think T prison teaches you much more about the

the levels of how much can be taken from you.

And it teaches you to value intimacy and trust and freedom.

There's probably a lot of other lessons, but that's three that I got for now.

What would you say?

That resonates a lot.

I think that I would say to that young man, I would name some of those feelings that he's feeling.