Christian Howes

And I would say, it's okay to feel those things.

And it's okay to get help.

And I would try to also point that young man towards the hope of...

a positive vision for his life and all the joy and love and connection and purpose that he could tap into.

Cause I think he was missing all of that, all those things at that moment.

Yeah.

I don't know if he would listen if it was just one day, but if I, if I had enough time and if I could, if I could, you know, wrap around them and like hold them back from certain things that maybe it would have changed.

I guess the challenge is, you know,

I mean, I had some therapy when I was in high school.

And so I was already like hip to it.

I was like hip to the idea.

Yeah.

And so it was just always something that I pursued when I was locked up.

At the time, we had access to Pell Grants and we could go to college.

I believe the same thing happened for Shaka.

And so that was a real important thing.

That was like a lifeline for me in prison to be able to take classes from professors that would come in.

And yeah, so I took a lot of psychology classes as well as philosophy.

And then I've just kept it up ever since then.

So, you know, I like to go to therapy.