Christina Bauer

One is the kind of self-efficacy component.

That's, I think, also part of what we've done, right?

That you have shown strength previously and you have those strengths to deal with depression and that can help you in the future.

And then secondly, I think you also stress kind of the...

temporal nature of depression, right?

That although oftentimes it just doesn't feel that way at all, right?

In the midst of a depression, you're like, oh my God, like, this is just like... It's the loss of imagination kind of thing.

Right, right, right.

But I mean, but kind of like reminding yourself that, well, there is, you know, there is an end to it.

And that's also the nature of depression, right?

Like even, of course, idea you go through therapy, that is certainly important, I think.

But if you look at the data, depression comes and goes in phases, right?

And so things do get better with time usually.

That's what we see in the data as well.

And so reminding yourself of that, okay, like it's not going to stay like that forever, even though I feel horrible.

I think that in itself is like something that can give people hope and stay kind of, you know, stay engaged.

Thanks for having me.