Christina van Dyke
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31 appearances
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first heard Jan 2022
last heard Jan 2022
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One of the things that's running in the background...
Of all these questions about monsters is what are we afraid of?
With vampires, it's this sort of thrilling fear of being taken over and changed in these, you know, mysterious and maybe horrible, but kind of cool ways.
But with zombies...
I think there are always two fears.
There's the fear of being surrounded by all of these lifeless beings that are just gradually going to overwhelm you and take over.
And then there's the fear of being a zombie.
And that's what Dave thinks consciousness is, like that subjective inner self.
And then you get like iZombie or the Santa Clarita diet with Drew Barrymore.
And suddenly it was like, you know, women and homemakers can be zombies too.
It probably does.
What I'm hearing is the kind of movie that you couldn't make with philosophical zombies is any of Woody Allen's movies where he's doing the voiceover of like his thoughts in the background.
What's really interesting about philosophical zombies is that you have this question, what, if anything, about human beings transcends or goes beyond just physicalism?
I think the connection with the Hollywood zombies and even the Haitian zombies is the idea that
If all we are, are these sort of physical beings that are moving through the world.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
With the only kind of aim vaguely being reproduction and continuation, that that misses a huge part of what we take the human experience to be.
And so Dave is interested in talking about philosophical zombies to identify what consciousness might be.
So what it might be that sets apart a zombie that's doing all the things that we do and looks just like we do from someone who's experiencing their life in this first-person narrative, subjective, inner kind of way.
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