Christopher Ems
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I just want to sleep a bit.
We get on the call now and they're ready to talk.
20 something hours of what the US government called profit sessions, which is where it's an agreement that you sign with the government that says that anything you discuss in this, these meetings, they can't use as evidence against you and you can't mention to anyone else apart from obviously your lawyers on the call.
So we go through that and it just becomes evident in these meetings.
I'm going through 20 odd hours and you know, it's incredibly stressful.
I'm doing it all via video conference, similar to how we're talking now.
And they're raking over everything.
And I just thought, this is ridiculous.
And it's at the end, they sort of said, OK, Chris, you know, we'll give you a deal.
And this is really exclusive because I've never said this.
And obviously in Russia, now I can.
They said, OK, well, here's the deal.
We'll write a nice letter to the judge saying that you've helped us and you can testify at Virgil's trial.
We also want you to plead guilty for wire fraud.
But I haven't done I'm not a con man and they said well in 2018 you went on a video and at the time I was advising a company called Skycoin I was advising on regulation and I held up one of their their products and said this is great.
It works Well, it did work because I had it in my house.