Christopher Luxon

They pipe it in from Malaysia or they've got a desalination plant.

It turns saltwater into freshwater.

And of course, the whole place, you could actually pick it up and plonk it into Lake Taupo.

Exactly.

We have some serious work to do on our infrastructure, if we're really honest.

The way they go about, I met with the CEO of Changi Airport when I was up there.

They're putting an airport, they call it number five, that'll be bigger than Changi 1, 2, 3, and 4 combined, and it's going to be quite an operation.

What's impressive there is they do infrastructure planning exceptionally well, and that's a real opportunity for New Zealand because we're probably in the top 10% of countries that spend on infrastructure, but we're in the bottom 10% in terms of the efficiency we get from it.

And a lot of that is because we do ad hoc projects.

We don't plan out the joint infrastructure.

And the Singaporeans have a 50-year plan.

So if you think about that Marina Bay Sands, that was planned out 50 years ago about what was going to go into that land, what they were going to put on it.

It's well accepted.

I mean, they've been going 60 years.

They just started their fourth prime minister.

And their parliament meets two or three days a month.

Oh, about the CRL.

We have been doing things in a really inefficient way.

And like it's 1975 at times, we haven't moved on and changed the way we do things.

I agree with that article.