Christopher Rufo

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The Rubin Report · Socialism Likely to Win in the Short Term, But There's a Catch | Christopher Rufo · 25 Jul 2026 podcast

They want him to win.

They'll follow him where he goes.

A lot of those voters, though, simultaneously will indulge conspiracy theories from people like Candace Owens or Ian Carroll or whomever is the latest conspiracy star.

And they can maintain even contradictions within their own worldview by compartmentalizing them.

Said, yeah, I vote for Trump, but I'm kind of interested in in Candace Owens conspiracy theory.

But if Trump goes against Thomas Massey, then I'm going to bounce Massey and I'm for Trump.

And so it's a 3D model, not a 2D model.

But here's the good news, because I think everyone knows at this point the bad news.

The good news is that the conservative institutions have mostly resisted this way of thinking and this self-destructive ideological shift.

And so conservative institutions as a whole have done a good job at maintaining good epistemic hygiene and maintaining their sanity through this great online derangement.

The danger is that the audience is starting to fragment and split.

And I think that while, you know, and I see this in real life, you go to events and you say, you know, this someone will come up to you afterwards and say, yeah, I'm a real estate agent or an accountant or a business guy.

And I really think that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

And so when that started to happen was when I realized, all right, it's moving offline to the audience.

in that way.

But people who run the institutions have successfully immunized themselves against it.

So to me, it's really a matter of trying to bring those people back in, not the influencers.

You actually just need to push those people out.

You need a kind of re-imposition of some gatekeeping.

But then to bring their audience back in, to say, hey, look,

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