Chuck Bryant

Yeah, it was pretty horrifying to read that and, frankly, disappointing.

But there's also a brand in Australia.

A brand of caterpillars.

They lay their eggs in anthills, and when they come out, they will eat those ants.

But aside from that, in the Hawaiian, they, like you said, are strictly herbivores.

And they are using those leaves also to camouflage themselves.

Um, they have a lot of great, um, mechanisms to keep this not quite octopus level, but they seem like they're, you know, I don't know if it's wrong to use the word smart, but they know to, to like feed under leaves.

So birds can't see them.

Uh, they also have some natural, uh, camouflage.

Like sometimes those eyes can look like, uh, the fake eyes can look like snakes.

Did you see that one?

Yeah, it looks like a snake.

Yeah, like a lot of them are solitary caterpillars.

But there is, what was the one in particular that traveling groups?

Yeah, I get the feeling those are the ones that might do the old snake one, too.

Let's do it.

That explains that old saying, you ain't nothing but caterpillar frass.

I never knew what they meant by that.

Yeah.

And that's one of the things they do, like several other things, which is it all sort of falls in the umbrella of I don't want anyone to know I'm like even here.