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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hey, and welcome to The Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here for Dave. So let's get it going about a really terrible disaster that happened back in 1955 in France. That's right, the disaster at Le Mans, a very dark time for motorsports history, something I've never been into, although I did see the F1 movie on a plane recently. Yeah, you were telling me about it.
You were telling me that is one of the better movies you've ever seen in your life, if I remember correctly. No, I did not. I think I spoke about it on the show even. But this all occurred on June 11th, 1955. We should probably tell you a little bit about Le Mans as a race because it is different than, you know, if you're just sort of a casual race person.
You're like, yeah, they just drive around a track a certain amount of times, and then somebody wins once you've completed the 200 laps. Yeah, they just turn left a lot. Yeah. That is not what happens at Le Mans. I think they're going to hold the 94th one this June. It is an endurance race where you drive along with two racing partners. There's three drivers, and they take turns.
But you drive for 24 hours, and whoever completes the most laps in that 24 hours is the winner. Yes. And the in Le Mans in particular, the track is called the Circuit de la Sarthe. And it's a D shape about eight and a half miles or 13.7 kilometers around. And it's not only made of racetrack, but they also incorporate some actual public roads that get shut down for the race.
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Chapter 2: What happened during the 1955 Le Mans disaster?
I think the all-time track record speed, like the tip-top on a straightaway would be 253 miles an hour, which was 1988. But even in the 1950s... you know, this crash occurred, I saw 120 up to 150 miles an hour. So they were driving these cars really, really fast, even back then. And I don't know, I almost feel like we should take an early break there. I need to. Okay, let's do it.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Le Mans race in motorsports?
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All right. So the tragedy that unfolded that day in 1955 was pretty much due to a very poor track design, along with a bad maneuver by a driver. The poor design meaning, you know, when you're if you don't know anything about auto racing, there's something called a pit and a pit crew. And you pull in and get like gas and get your tires change and get your windows clean and
Whatever else the car needs at the time. Sure. I actually watched NASCAR for like a season in the early to mid 2000s. For some reason, I got into it. Did you have a favorite driver? I did, and I can't remember his name now. I can picture him in my head. He drove the UPS car, whatever his name was. He drove a UPS car? That'd be pretty impressive. He was sponsored by UPS.
He was known for doing wheelies in his UPS car and going into donuts in the middle of the race because he knew he was never going to win. And here comes a box truck on the outside lane. He's wearing those shorts. His legs are amazing. Oh, man. This is crazy. Yeah, it was a short flirtation. Vertation, excuse me. A heavy, heavy bear-tation?
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Chapter 4: How does the layout of the Le Mans track contribute to its challenges?
A heavy, heavy bear-tation. So it was a quarter-mile-long stretch, this pit road was in this case. Everyone was really tightly packed together, so there wasn't enough space to begin with. And it was right there on top of the track. It was right along the edge. So if you wanted to complete a pit stop, you had to cut to the right really, really quickly and then brake really, really severely.
Because if you overshot and didn't do that, then, you know, you can't go backwards. So you have to drive another lap around. Sometimes you might not be able to. And so, you know, you have every incentive to, like, make that tough move and quick stop to get in there. Yes. And so the layout of the pit was bad enough. Like it was the thing that set the stage for this disaster.
But it was actually a terrible, terrible decision by one of the drivers that actually triggered the disaster. Paint a picture. Thank you. Here I go. I'm just dabbing my paintbrush to my tongue and proceeding. I've got to beat the devil out of the brush first. Okay, is that what they say? That's what Bob Ross always said. Oh, that's right. So this driver's name was Mike Hawthorne.
He was driving a Jaguar for the Jaguar team, and he was going in for a pit stop. And as he was coming in, there was another driver driving an Austin Healey. His name was Lance Macklin. And Lance Macklin saw that a pack of faster drivers, including Mike Hawthorne, were coming up behind him. So Lance Macklin very courageously got over so they could get around him easily.
But right as he got over, Mike Hawthorne wanted to go into the pit. Well, rather than just tailgate Lance Macklin for three, four seconds, maybe, and then veer into the pit after Lance Macklin cleared it, Mike Hawthorne overtook Lance Macklin and then slammed on his brakes. That caused Lance Macklin to have to veer to the left severely.
And when he did veer to the left, he veered right into the path of another driver named Pierre Levesque, who was driving a Mercedes. And it went really badly from that moment on. So, like I said earlier, I heard a contemporaneous call of this whole thing as 120 miles an hour, but maybe up to 150. Either way, super fast.
He hit that Austin-Healey, sort of sloped back of that car, acted like a ramp. And it launched LeVeg and that Mercedes, obviously, into the air. Apparently, Macklin said later he could feel the heat from the exhaust as it flew over him, which is crazy to think about.
The Mercedes ran up a four-foot embankment, an earthen embankment that was supposed to protect spectators, hit a concrete staircase, burst into flames, and exploded. And, I mean, you could look this up on YouTube. You can't see the actual crash, but you see the explosion and theā Very disturbingly, you see very large car parts just being hurled at 100 miles an hour plus into people.
Yeah, this is, yeah, it's bad enough that Pierre Levesque, his car burst into flames and he died. But this is where it gets particularly catastrophic because the front axle to the car, wheels that had come loose from the axle, the hood, the radiator and the engine just went flying at like over 100 miles an hour each through the crowd and just cut through the crowd like a scythe.
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