Chuck Swirsky

But the point is people aren't going to be shoveling and stuff.

It just won't be as bad as it used to be.

Dan Weider, we're talking about the weather affecting the games.

And so that was brought up.

I know you can chime in on this as well.

I think that that is an appropriate analogy for the result of that game.

I said if you like defense and you like weather, which a lot of people who listen to this station do, then that was probably a game they loved.

Well, and that's it.

On one side of it, you have the thrill of getting to the playoffs, but then you have the agony of the pressure.

It is not just the agony of defeat.

It's the agony of the expectation that occurs right afterward.

I mean, we're talking about a Bills job being open because of that very thing.

So when you consider the details and how much more pressure there's going to have to be to, for example, fill in the draft with lower draft picks, that becomes magnified in all of this.

We're talking to Dan Wienerer.

He is the host of the Take the North podcast, and he is the senior writer for The Athletic covering the Bears here on Rahimi Harrison-Grote on 670 The Score.

We got the news about Jonathan Gannon, expectedly, reportedly, becoming the defensive coordinator for the Packers.

Where do you think this leaves Al Harris, who also interviewed with Washington?

Dan, I asked the question earlier, if there was anything you learned more about the Rams after they lost to the Seahawks in that exciting NLC championship game.

And I say that because sometimes you want to know that at least you lost to the team that ended up winning the entire thing or at least getting close.

What did you think about the Rams in that game?