Chuck Todd

Next question comes from Brad.

You've often said that DC is more Veep than West wing.

If you're comfortable sharing, what's the most Veep thing you've seen.

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Um,

Isn't the most veep thing we've seen, this Iran debacle at this point, right?

Guess who those were fighting words for you, huh?

Where we go from threatening the obliteration of a civilization to maybe we'll start a joint venture in the Strait of Hormuz to collect tolls, which is a true thing that Donald Trump did this.

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Boy, in all seriousness, I say in all seriousness, like this is all serious at this point.

David McCullough.

I mean, he's he's going to.

He's he he earned that.

Look, I have made no secret.

He did earn his reputation.