Cindy Short
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36 appearances
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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He did come right out to meet with me, and I think... Probably out of curiosity, I introduced myself and I told him who I was and what I was doing and that I had been working on the baby Lisa case, that I was no longer representing Deborah. And then I had some questions about him and his role in the neighborhood and hope that maybe he could help me if he was willing to talk about it.
No glass. And he's a small guy.
He was tough looking. He looked like a sophisticated consumer of the criminal justice system. He looked like someone who had had a rough life.
It was an interesting roller coaster of emotion where he was sometimes stoic. There were times, quite honestly, where he was in tears. It was confusing in some ways. I was trying to use my... best persuasive skills to help convince him to maybe bring closure to a family if he could.
I tried to get him to tell me where he was on October 3rd and 4th, and he didn't think that would be in his best interest. And then a stunning confession. He did tell me, though, that he had found three cell phones. And he told me where he had found them. He also claimed to have told the police that he had found three cell phones.
Yes. Yes. And he's telling me where, which is not very far from the house. So he's placing himself, not just the proximity of the phones, but in possession of the phones. He's claiming that he's with another woman at the time that they find the phones. He tells me where they are under this bridge at 210 and North Brighton.
And in fact, this is when I employed one of my investigators with a dog to go down to that location. And he went so far as to tell me that the car that he was in with this woman had a leak and that I would be able to find a stain on the road where they had stopped. And we did find a stain, but you know... Roads have stains. So we went down there with the dog.
And under this bridge, there is a culvert. And so there is water there, but it's very low water. Because at one point he had talked about throwing the phones into a pond. He'd also talked about the phones being in this woman's car. But just to back up, just to back up.
He just told me they were three cell phones on the side of the road. Now, he's not telling me that they're Jeremy and... But I think the connection would be that if he- It's three cell phones that are sitting there together. Yes, three cell phones sitting there together. Now, at some point he had, you know, he tried to tell me that I don't steal cell phones.
But the thing about it is a thief, if you're gonna go into a house- to steal stuff, which this guy does, then you're gonna steal things you can sell really easily, cell phones, guns, any kind of electronics, things you can pick up easily, throw them in your pockets.
These three cell phones were sitting on a counter in the kitchen, so it would have been very easy for a burglar coming into the home through the front door or through that window the phones would have been right there.
The other thing that was chilling for me were the tears. It felt to me like there was this We were right on the tip of him wanting to tell me something, but he couldn't. And I didn't have the kind of leverage that police have. There was nothing I could give. You know, there was nothing I could use to, other than the goodness of his heart. Do you think he was thinking about confessing?
It felt that way. And I walked away from it feeling that way. You were just almost there.
The women in my group and in my law firm were aching as mothers, and we wanted to be able to make a difference. We were hoping that if we were really on the ground talking to people, spreading ourselves out, that perhaps we could do something that would find the child.
Yeah, I think so. You know, having been in the house, the house is a ranch-style house. It's very small. As I recall, there were wood floors. And so the distance between the front door and that baby's room is maybe five to seven to eight steps. It's very short. I spent many hours in that neighborhood late at night. And that neighborhood is extraordinarily quiet, very, very dark.
So I do think that someone could come in and come out.
I was in the case by the time the search warrant was done and they brought the dogs in and then they made this announcement about the dog alerting in the house.
I really believed that they were creating theater to make it look as if Debra was responsible. And I felt that that was really unfair. Debra's aunt, Cindy Lorette.
Yeah, so Mike Thompson was an individual who worked for Ford Clay Como, and he was getting off work, and it was closer to, I want to say, 3.30 or so in the morning. And he was on a motorcycle, and he came to a stoplight under... a bridge and he was about to get on the highway and so he sees a man which he said was underdressed with a baby that he also thought was underdressed.
He felt like it was really odd. And his first instinct was to stop and offer them a ride, except he was on a motorcycle.
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