Claire Stevens

And he is asking a lot of questions about her insecurities and where they come from and whether the kind of relentless pursuit of more and more surgery is going to solve those issues.

But the really interesting thing, firstly, is that once kind of episode one of this came out, there was a lot of commentary.

You won't believe it, but people here.

Yes, so there are a lot of opinions from people who said, like, I have a teenage daughter and do we really need another way to alter a healthy body?

Is it worth these risks?

All of those questions.

And what happened was that at the time we're recording this, Bec has decided to wait an extra week in Bali before making her decision about the procedure.

So basically she pulled out of her scheduled surgery and

She could potentially get it a little bit later.

She's still in Bali.

But it has kind of started this bigger consideration for her.

What's happening with Athena?

Good question.

I've been looking at that because the other – so there are a bunch of influencers who are doing this.

It was a very big influencer trip.

Yes.

And what it seems to be that a lot of people have kind of suggested, although I couldn't get confirmation on this, like I haven't got confirmation on whether Athena has had her surgery.

She may not have been booked in for it yet, but she hasn't come out and said she's not getting it.

But the other thing I can't get confirmation on is whether this is like a contra trip or

whether they're going over there and getting this surgery for free with the... Hashtag gifted.