Claire Stevens

I think that is like the filtering down from the elite and then you've got influences and then you've got how it infiltrates the rest of us.

it's become almost too accessible and too mainstream.

And then you've got to do all sorts of procedures to reverse that ageing.

It's so stressful.

We're so lucky that we're not going to Europe.

The thing I've been thinking about with the grip strength is that

With grip strength, it's like, oh, I feel like, Brian, that's only a longevity test in that if you don't have strong grip strength, it means you might have a muscular degenerative disease.

Do you know what I mean?

I'm like, Brian, I need to talk to you about how to interpret scientific research.

Don't worry.

He's available for any chats.

No, I really want to chat with him.

I actually think he'd be interesting for 45 minutes and then I'd be like, get away from me.

I'm bored.

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Don't fucking push in on me.

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