Claire Stevens

And the reality is, no, most human beings sit somewhere in between.

And if we have more equality in our households, then we can have more equality when it comes to work.

Like we're just, as the expert said on 60 Minutes last night, we're not at a point of equality yet.

where this is just about choice.

One thing that's really promising about the data that they talked about on The Rest Is Entertainment is that

when they were researching about people's, men and women's views about tradwife culture and feminism and all of that, men who are in relationships with women are far more likely to identify as feminists and men who aren't are far less likely.

And I think that that's the thing.

And that's a little bit of the comfort that I'm like, a lot of these, like you've got on 60 Minutes, you had Tyson from Married at First Sight, who is a single man in his big Gold Coast home talking about how he just wants to put his wife in the kitchen.

And I'm like, that... You will find that that is totally incompatible when you actually have to live with a real human woman.

Like, it is very unlikely that those...

that that binary masculine and feminine life is going to happen?

Yeah, but that's what I mean is that you would hope that even if, you know, Gen Z men, for example, are having these ideas, that as they end up in long-term relationships and as they tackle all the problems of our time, such as cost of living and raising children, I mean, it's hilarious them talking about being the providers when I'm like, yeah, you try and do that.

You try and provide for a household on one income.

I do think that they're going to find that it just isn't possible, unlike what our friend Jeff says.

Anyway, until then, we'll see you.

Goodbye.

Bye.

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