Chapter 1: What did Taylor Swift's fiancé reveal about their relationship?
hello and welcome to mama mia out loud it's what women are talking about on monday the 25th of may i'm holly wainwright i'm claire stevens i'm emilia lester
We had a big weekend, didn't we? Holly, we did. We were keeping some pretty incredible company.
You had lunch on Friday with Jacinda Ardern. Can you tell me everything?
Yeah, so we'll go chronologically because Holly's is more exciting, but mine did happen earlier in the day. So on Friday I was at a lunch for my wonderful publisher, Alan and Unwin, because the author, Lily King, who wrote Heart the Lover, which a lot of outlouders have read because I think Jess and I both recommended it to death.
So she was in Australia for Sydney Writers Festival and it was a lunch for her and Jacinda Ardern is a fan of Lily King. Oh, wow. So she just happened to be at this lunch. I said to her, like, I'm pregnant and I'm in my floppy era.
You probably didn't entertain.
I know, she's like, honey, I can see. But I was like, I can't believe you ran a country when you were this. What did she say? She said, she was like, well, you wouldn't do it if you didn't have to.
Well, I know how Holly met her because I went to see Holly interview Jacinda. Holly, you have to tell us everything.
I interviewed Jacinda on Friday night at the town hall, Sydney Town Hall. It was great. I was really nervous, really nervous. Because this is the thing, right? We're Jacinda fangirls. I'm on the record as being a Jacinda fangirl. Not everybody is.
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Chapter 2: Is it ever acceptable for a father to miss his child's wedding?
Since when does he need to miss things in order to be president? Like there's, he has done the most ridiculous, he plays golf so often. Even the weekend of Don Jr's wedding this past weekend, he was scheduled to go to New Jersey.
Yeah, but Claire, that's not fair. He was scheduled to go and play golf. It's a long weekend in the US and that is his traditional long weekend activity.
Why was he scheduled? Why was he scheduled?
Which one do you do on long weekends? You probably watch maths. Like, is that so much more important than Trump's golf?
Not when I've got a longstanding wedding invitation. That's the thing. He was scheduled till very recently to play golf.
But then he cancelled the golf because he had a thing called a run.
What part of that do you not understand? But I think what happened is that somebody got in his ear and said, hey, mate, if you are missing your son's wedding, you can't... Somebody got in his ear?
Is that an ear joke that you're making there, Claire? He was shot in the ear. That's too soon. So insensitive. Look, I do have to say, I know you wanted to take the Trump out of it, but... Can I just provide a tiny bit of context on John Jr.?
Please do.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Tradwife phenomenon?
Which is unfortunate because of the name.
Which is, yeah, for other reasons. And look, he's not got a great track record sort of character-wise. Just quickly, he did compare Syrian refugees to Skittles, and he has hunted, among other animals, endangered Mongolian sheep, leopards, elephants, and a protected duck in a Venice lagoon. I didn't even know you could hunt in Venice lagoon.
Like I said, lovely guy, lovely guy. But none of those things would bother Don Sr. No, that's true.
But look, I can't believe I'm doing this, but it does look like Don Sr. had a busy weekend because the Iran deal that he references, it does look like it's about to happen. And look, he did start the war that he is now negotiating the peace deal for. So one might suggest that if he hadn't started the war, he could have attended the wedding. But retrospect is easy, isn't it?
It's always easy to say in retrospect what you'd rather do. So we just heard him speak in a press conference and then he followed it up with a true social post.
What did he say? Which is like, in the amount of time you've spent releasing statements about this wedding, you should have just gone. But he's like, he would really like me to go. Like, my son would really like me to go. And it's like, yeah, because it's his wedding. Which is weird. It's his wedding, that's why.
This is a power play, right, between the Donalds here, is that Donald can be like, I don't have to come to your wedding.
No. The funny thing is that Donald Trump... literally two weeks ago had an event to promote a future UFC bout at the White House. Like, he commits to things that are so ridiculous and unimportant. And then to act like he couldn't possibly go to his son's wedding.
Flights are really expensive right now. Have you noticed that? He has a plane. And it was all quite quick. They got engaged in December. It's May. Look, to get cheap airfares, you have to book way ahead. So I'm just thinking that maybe he dropped the ball on the organisational part of it.
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