Clare Stephens

Don't worry.

I hate tuna.

Thank God.

Yeah, 14th.

14th, yeah.

Well, she, so I listened to the New York Times, the interview.

The hour-long one.

Oh, she's on that and there's a written version of it too and it's absolutely brilliant.

She's one of those people where she speaks and you're kind of nodding along and then an hour later you're still thinking about one of the things she says.

But what she says in that is at the time that Girls aired,

there were only and like think America bigger population all of that it was only being watched by about a million people an episode yet the commentary was so it was just saturating everything and she makes the point that a lot of people who had a problem with her who had a problem with the show were not watching the show it was more kind of the symbol of what she was and what she represented which was

millennial narcissism, the scene, that iconic scene, I think it's in the first episode where she says, I think I might be the voice of my generation or at least a voice of a generation.

There seemed to be a lot of people who didn't get that, didn't get that it was a joke and it was self-aware.

And so there was all this backlash and you're right, she did have to disappear, although the show was on for a very long time.

I think 24 till she was...

Like there were several seasons.

Yeah, yeah.

And so she... But after that she did kind of disappear because she just could not cope with...

the absolute beating her reputation was taking.

Yeah.