Chapter 1: What can we expect from Harry and Meghan's royal tour in Australia?
Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Monday the 13th of April. I'm Holly Wainwright. Oh, you have something. I was pausing because you had something in the script. I did and I do. I'll bring that back. I was going to do it at the end and then I was like. I'm Holly Wainwright and I've got a Rogue Monday question before we get started today.
Okay.
From my friends here who are.
You are? Oh, I'm Claire Stephens.
And I'm Ember and I'm filling in for Amelia today. I heard this heated debate in the office this morning. You know how on Monday morning everyone's chitty chatting in the kitchen? Yeah. We're still going on with the weekend.
do you share a towel with the people you live with now I know that you live alone Emily but you grew up in a house with other people so you get to answer this question too do you share a towel like not one towel but like are there specific towels for specific people or just general towels for use so this is kind of one of the problems with my life I share a towel
My husband doesn't know that. My husband thinks.
What do you mean you share a towel?
As in like if my partner's just got out of the shower and his towel's hanging up, I'll just use it.
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Chapter 2: Why did Bieberchella resonate so much with Millennials?
So I'm watching it all from my lounge with a hot water bottle, obviously. But just a quick recap. First, Sabrina Wood. Did you guys see Sabrina Carpenter's performance?
My favourite moment was when she did Tears, which obviously the famous line is about tears run down my thighs, and she sat on top of a fountain but very subtly shot out. Tears from underneath her bottom.
I loved it. Beautiful. Oh, my God. I love big concerts. Like I just want to have fun. I don't want to think. I want to release my inhibitions and I just want to watch Sabrina Carpenter on a car getting wet.
There was a lot of ā From what I saw, there were a lot of costume changes. There was a lot of scenery changes. There was a real live car. There was a real live fountain.
Chapter 3: What prompted Melania Trump to address her connection with Jeffrey Epstein?
There were dancing poodles. Like it was a big deal.
She was in a movie. She was starring in a movie.
Because I think Beyonce took it to the next level when she did her Beychella concert. And it feels like everyone who had to headline after that has to really be like, oh, this is the concert of my life.
Except for a certain young man we're about to talk about who basically was wearing a hoodie.
Exactly. So then there was Beba Teller. So Sabrina Carpenter headlined the first night and Justin Bieber headlined the second night. And there has been a little bit of criticism that Sabrina Carpenter literally was doing the most. She had Susan Sarandon doing an interlude monologue for... That was weird and not funny and quite dark. And she had Will Ferrell kind of popping up on stage. Oh, yeah.
And pretending to be an electrician. Like she really was doing the most. And then there was Justin Bieber in a hoodie essentially on YouTube.
So I've seen him. He was sitting on the floor with his laptop like looking at the YouTube videos and then going, oh, this one's fun and singing along with it. Is that?
an accurate representation but it was genius yeah it's so good it's kind of like you know when you pick up your phone to check the time and then suddenly you're scrolling on TikTok you're like what was I doing on my phone I'm like Justin you're at a concert you're meant to be performing I want you to explain to me Claire because obviously I've seen bits of it it looked great he looked really well which is good because I remember this time last year at Coachella he did not look well he was stumbling around he could barely stand up everyone was like fears for Justin
But what I don't really understand that I need a millennial to explain to me is why there are literally women in the office today almost crying about how glorious it was.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Lena Dunham share in her new memoir?
What rumour?
I don't know what the rumours are. Yeah. Well, her name came up in the Epstein files with email exchanges with Ghislaine Maxwell, right, which were redacted. And she addressed that in this speech and said they were just very polite email responses to being invited to things or whatever. She did call her G. She did call her G. Which is a nickname. It does sound a little bit friendly.
But that's one thing that she was specifically rebutting. But the thing that's interesting in this, that's just the general chaos of that house, really, and this era, is that a lot of people think that a lot of what Trump's doing is to distract from the Epstein files. So it's like... But Melania didn't get that memo.
She was like, let's look back over here but then maybe that also just tells us how bad the mess has got in the world that now they're like, let's start talking about Epstein again. That seems like a better idea.
Exactly. My advice for Melania is my favourite quote from Jemima Kirk, I think you're thinking about yourself a bit too much.
That's exactly it. Speaking of what Melania is distracting from, there are now fears the Middle East conflict could lead to higher food prices and even shortages. The Guardian ran a story today about how shoppers are buying more and more canned goods like tomatoes and lentils and long-life milk to fill out meals if there ends up being a really scary supply crisis.
No. Yes, pantry maxim. I live off tinned goods because I don't cook and now my tuna prices are like $4 a tin. It used to be $3.25.
It's like this is for lazy girls. This isn't for international crises. Ballarat resident Robin Power says families in her community are starting to shop like they did during the pandemic lockdowns. Oh, no. She said people are worried the trucks will run out of diesel and won't be able to get goods to the shops. So they're trying to drive less often to go to the supermarket themselves.
So they're getting staples because they last longer. They can fill out a meal. People are thinking, if anything does happen, at least I've got baked beans and spaghetti. And this comes after news that the federal government is launching a multimillion dollar advertising campaign encouraging Australians to reduce car use. Launches today, I think. Yeah, as the global oil crisis persists.
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Chapter 5: How is the Federal Government addressing potential fuel crises?
Like, everyone knew she was a nepo baby and she had, like, this amount of privilege. And yet she was writing about these four girls...
Chapter 6: What are the implications of pantry-maxxing during a crisis?
who literally came from nothing and thought they were the center of everyone's universe.
Which is how everybody feels in their 20s.
Which is how everyone feels in their 20s. But I think it came from this group of people who were like, but you don't know that everyone feels like that in your 20s because you weren't experiencing that. And I think now with the shows she's creating, like the latest one, Too Much, with Megan Salter, I think
That was the first show I saw of hers where everyone was like, this is a really good show and it happens to be created by Lena Dunham. She also made a movie.
And I couldn't get any Project Greenlit.
But it feels like now she's able to do the memoir and come back as Lena Dunham the person because that's not going to get reconnected to the work she's doing.
I do think, though, like what you say about the criticism of girls and even it happened with Too Much, I do think it's a uniquely female experience that you make art and everybody analyses how it does or doesn't reflect your real life and whether you have the right to tell that story. So with Girls, I remember thinking,
Nobody, no man who's making a TV show, nobody was looking at, you know, Seinfeld and being like, well, you didn't consider X, Y, Z. And I know it's a different time and all of that. But I do think it's uniquely female that we analyse it to that extent. And with Too Much, it was very much people, and I did it, drawing parallels between her relationship with Jack Antonoff and all of that.
But in terms of the why, the why for her doing this... because it is what her father says, and you do think it while you're listening to her speaking, I think ultimately we all have a deep human instinct to be understood. And I think she probably... still feels misunderstood.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of Justin Bieber's Coachella performance?
about the people who create the things we like. And it's such a dilemma to me that I would, not to me personally, obviously, but if I was Frida McFadden, why would I ever not just stay behind the scenes and count my money and write the books I want to write and live in a big, beautiful house and get to walk through the streets with no one knowing who I am?
I think... There is also a human instinct to take credit and to put... And to be known. And to be known. And I think that it is like you always have this weird thing, Holly, where you'd want to be out of Elton John and... Bernie Taupin, they wrote all the songs. You want to be Bernie.
Well, because fame isn't good for anyone. No, no.
Yeah, but I'm type three and achiever, so it is good for me.
Yeah. It's not though. You know what I mean? Like achieving is the money, the recognition, the respect of your peers, like all those things. But there are very few people in the world who will tell you, oh, it's amazing that I can walk down the street and everyone stares at me and I can't, you know what I mean?
Okay, but imagine like you wrote under an alias and then you're walking along and you meet someone and they're like, I just read the most amazing book.
As if you don't want to be like, that's me, I'm the genius.
It's by this author named Wally Hain where I ā Have you heard of it?
It's so good. There's no way you're going to be like, wow, she's here.
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