Clarence Jones

It's one thing having conversations because I sense that people don't even know what to converse about besides that we have some problems here, as opposed to maybe the first thing is getting some information out. about what's going on. Then you can circle back and talk about these things. I want to relate a quick story.

It's one thing having conversations because I sense that people don't even know what to converse about besides that we have some problems here, as opposed to maybe the first thing is getting some information out. about what's going on. Then you can circle back and talk about these things. I want to relate a quick story.

When we were dealing with cardiovascular disease for the indigenous populations, we realized that they were at very, very high risk and we wanted to teach how to take blood pressure. So we went into the communities, literally, you know, people from our department went into the communities and started, you know, trying to educate.

When we were dealing with cardiovascular disease for the indigenous populations, we realized that they were at very, very high risk and we wanted to teach how to take blood pressure. So we went into the communities, literally, you know, people from our department went into the communities and started, you know, trying to educate.

And then we realized that they weren't tuned in because we weren't considered a trusted person to provide that information. Even though, you know, we have all these degrees and all this other kind of stuff, it didn't matter. And then we engage some of the leaders of your community, you know, the chiefs even, and we would train them. And then they would go out and provide information.

And then we realized that they weren't tuned in because we weren't considered a trusted person to provide that information. Even though, you know, we have all these degrees and all this other kind of stuff, it didn't matter. And then we engage some of the leaders of your community, you know, the chiefs even, and we would train them. And then they would go out and provide information.

And then lo and behold, we saw more engagement in it. So the point I'm bringing up is the idea of we, all of us, have to be aware of the culture and what the culture values, how it is that they want to receive information. And we all like to receive information in different ways. And for me as a professional back then, that was a lesson even for me. And I think that lesson still goes forward.

And then lo and behold, we saw more engagement in it. So the point I'm bringing up is the idea of we, all of us, have to be aware of the culture and what the culture values, how it is that they want to receive information. And we all like to receive information in different ways. And for me as a professional back then, that was a lesson even for me. And I think that lesson still goes forward.

Clarence.

Clarence.

It seems to me that if somebody from your population presents themselves in a clinic or presents themselves in a hospital with, let's just say, an apparent heart attack, okay, just, okay, how should health providers be trained in order to effectively treat treat somebody in that kind of a situation.

It seems to me that if somebody from your population presents themselves in a clinic or presents themselves in a hospital with, let's just say, an apparent heart attack, okay, just, okay, how should health providers be trained in order to effectively treat treat somebody in that kind of a situation.

For one, I think that they need to be trained on differences in values, differences in trust, differences in how to communicate. Any thoughts on that overall?

For one, I think that they need to be trained on differences in values, differences in trust, differences in how to communicate. Any thoughts on that overall?

I remember distinctly doing that and sending my staff to it as well. And I will tell you, I was incredibly impressed and not only impressed, but also it was interesting As hell, I'm telling you, it was just like unbelievable. And I kept kind of knocking my head saying, man, I wish I had known this earlier in my career. But, you know, of course, you could always say better late than never.

I remember distinctly doing that and sending my staff to it as well. And I will tell you, I was incredibly impressed and not only impressed, but also it was interesting As hell, I'm telling you, it was just like unbelievable. And I kept kind of knocking my head saying, man, I wish I had known this earlier in my career. But, you know, of course, you could always say better late than never.

But I really encourage people, when you see an opportunity that, embraces these kinds of populations, go to them. I mean, it's just, it's really a wake-up call in many ways, in a good one. I want to state one thing and then share it, and I know that you have a comment, so hang on for one second.

But I really encourage people, when you see an opportunity that, embraces these kinds of populations, go to them. I mean, it's just, it's really a wake-up call in many ways, in a good one. I want to state one thing and then share it, and I know that you have a comment, so hang on for one second.

Um, so Chris, you know, you know, I mentioned, you know, somebody presenting themselves like both an apparent heart attack, but you brought up a very, very important point that we kind of thematically bring through our, our programs here and that's prevention. So you do, what is it that we can do about prevention and then, you know, acute treatment and, and disease management. And to your point,

Um, so Chris, you know, you know, I mentioned, you know, somebody presenting themselves like both an apparent heart attack, but you brought up a very, very important point that we kind of thematically bring through our, our programs here and that's prevention. So you do, what is it that we can do about prevention and then, you know, acute treatment and, and disease management. And to your point,